Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th May 2011 21:14 UTC, submitted by Elv13
Qt Since Nokia announced its switch to Windows Phone 7, people have been worried about the future of Qt. Well, it turns out Nokia is still going full steam ahead with Qt, since it has just announced the plans for Qt 5. Some major changes are afoot code and functionality-wise, but the biggest change is that Qt 5 will be developed out in the open from day one (unlike Qt 4). There will be no distinction between a Nokia developer or third party developer.
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RE[6]: Meh
by vivainio on Tue 10th May 2011 13:43 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Meh"
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You can do multibinding, binding to ancestor, element bindings, binding with data validation, binding to pure XAML data sources, priority binding, result filtering in XAML.. ?

Ok, so lets say "you can only do binding in xaml" instead. As an example, can you invoke XHR in xaml and store the result in a database?

PLUS really anything else under the sun you can imagine by creating a markup extension (Hint: "{Binding ...}" is simply a built in markup extension.)

Let me wager "markup extensions" need to be written in C#?

Intermixing logic with my UI code in QML doesn't sound like my cup of tea.

It's not for everyone, but it's pretty damn powerful and agile. You can do janitorial tasks like moving inline stuff out later, if you find it offensive. Just having the option to do it makes QML more expressive.

XAML is directly woven into the .NET object model. Every XAML element corresponds to a .NET Element 1:1. I can traverse them using C# and have first class support inside the IDE.

In QML, everything is a QObject (or QDeclarativeItem) as well. There is no "code generation" like with XAML, though. I don't really miss it.

Besides, Javascript is such a yuck language to use when compared to C# for these kind of things. A typeless, completely dynamic language is really an abomination .. and should never be a part of the picture moving forward.

Javascript is not typeless, it's dynamically typed (like Python, Ruby...). It's yuckier than many other languages, but it's pretty much here to stay - and as it appears, it's a valuable skill to learn in todays job market, so tons of people know the language.

Hell, I'd rather do C++/QML than deal with the incoherent mess that is Javascript/QML.

I also opted to go C++/QML first, but later changed my mind - almost everything could be done in QML/js in a more succinct way.

XAML has a killer flaw that makes it irrelevant to most people here though - it's neither open, nor truly cross platform (win + mac != cross platform). QML, OTOH, is something everyone can pick up and start using.

Edited 2011-05-10 13:43 UTC

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