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i sincerly do not mean to troll, and am probably offtopic, but since this is about europe, i ask you to take a critical approach at why things are as they are: there are other reasons, than enlightenment, for a group fo people to seem "civilised"... not all forces, by far, in Europe want EU to be the pillars of freedom, democracy, and reason, whatever they are...
i wish you to understand this, this is not a joke:
western europe is not like the USA, with wast technological, military, scientific heritage...
the russian speaking countries and other fallen communists are not even considierd part of modern europe; their space programs and other science and achievements do not concern us...
in our eyes western europe is the best because: we dispise adolf, we prevailed the communists, and have lots of now long dead poets and composers.
i repeat, this is not a joke: there is no scinece or technology involved in our selfimage: CERN, ESS and others are just prestige, the public does not even know or care what they are for...
as an example, you have no idea about the badly ESS was publicly recieved in sweden... even the fact that it is to be built on a piece of soil aimed for agriculture was first page news, not to mention the fact that it costs sweden money... the only reason for the topic being settled is people are not used to (and hence forget easely about) science, and the politicoans said "it will make us look good"... there was no public joy over the opportunity to contribute to needed and good science...
- "Communism" made dictatorship look bad in Europe - it is one of the main argument for democracy in the mouths of the masses... - this is unfortunate, because to be well informed and educated, for the purpose of putting down a "realistic" vote, does not seem to be a duty, or even encouraged... vote with your heart or for your wallet, do not ask too many questions, is the fashion now...
- Adolf made nationalism and race bilology look bad - there is no untainted argument in europe to dislike the neighbor or minority... but many would...
- a rare minority of the politicians have scientist/engineering background, most are lawyers, economist, or hippies...
if not for adolf and the bad example "communism" made, I do not think we would have even this degree of democracy and tolerance, that we enjoy now...
look at the government of italy, france, or england...
one seems to be a mafioso, the other racist, the third unhealthily conservative...
Edited 2011-08-12 22:27 UTC