Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 13th Oct 2011 21:33 UTC, submitted by mahmudinashar
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ah, it's that time of the year again. We already had this up on the sidebar, but I figured we'd turn it into a proper front page item - mostly because I want to discuss the move by the Ubuntu team to no longer install GNOME 2 as the 'classic' desktop option - which pretty much ends any and all involvement for me with Ubuntu (KDE 4 here I come). There's more to this than just that, of course, so those of you who do like Unity still have enough reason to upgrade.
Permalink for comment 493239
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE[7]: Sigh...
by lemur2 on Mon 17th Oct 2011 11:17 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Sigh..."
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

That is possible, of course, that the crash triggered some fundamental bug somewhere lower in the stack. However, usually the blame should work top-down, not bottom-up.

If kMail happens to crash, do you immediately file a bug against the kernel, or let Intel/AMD they have a bug in their CPU? Of course not, you first blame kMail, then if the maintainer can show that it's somewhere in a library he/she passes down the stack so it can be fixed.

Thom (quite likely) found a few bugs in KDE, denying this won't help anything.


Au contraire, it is clear that no such bug exists on any of my systems, which are running the same version of KDE. None of my systems exhibit anything like the behaviour which Thom describes.

All of my well-behaved, bug-free systems and Thom's system have KDE (and KDE applications) in common.

The only thing that sets Thom's system apart is "somewhere lower in the stack".

This observation is not proof, but nevertheless it is a strong indication that the fault on Thom's system does indeed lie "somewhere lower in the stack". Certainly, given all the described symptoms (and lack thereof on other systems), that is the first place I would look.

Reply Parent Score: 2