Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Dec 2011 22:43 UTC
Legal "A bill recently introduced in Congress would greatly expand the exemption to the Fair Labor Standards Act for IT employees, ending overtime benefits for many more types of workers, including network, database and security specialists." The Democrat senator of North-Carolina has introduced an even worse version of the bill, which specifically exempts database and network specialists and security professionals from overtime benefits. Say, isn't some company building a huge data centre in North-Carolina? I'm sure it's all a coincidence.
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RE: It's the contract, stupid
by Alfman on Sat 3rd Dec 2011 08:40 UTC in reply to "It's the contract, stupid"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

chmeee,

"Everyone outraged about this is an idiot. All it does is exempt the employer from mandated overtime pay."

That's a gross generalisation. One certainly doesn't have to be an idiot to find problems with this law, which is being applied irrationally. Why should federal worker protection laws apply to some titles but not others? If the exclusions are intended to target well-paid employees, why don't they just do that explicitly and drop the IT job title exceptions all together?


"Any sane employer will grant you overtime pay as part of your contract _if_ it's expected that you'll be working overtime."

US work hours, unlike other industrialised nations, have been going up, why would companies want to pay for it when they can keep the status quo and not pay?

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/CAREER/trends/08/30/ilo.study/

http://econ.ucsb.edu/~pjkuhn/Research%20Papers/LongHours.pdf



"If you desire/demand overtime as part of your contract, you mention that when they ask about salary requirements. Simple. No need for Big Brother to get between you and your boss.


I get the impression many people who don't have long hours are from places where long hours aren't expected of them in the first place. It's much more difficult to negotiate for something like overtime when your peers don't have it either. It's why corporations are lobbying against the rights of american employees to unionise; they know that individuals are too weak to stand up for their "rights".

Just this summer, Ohio legislators walked out of their own assembly to protest an unpopular bill being pushed through to abolish public unions.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/03/usa-wisconsin-idUSN022890...

http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/analysis.cfm?ID=129_SB_5&ACT=As~...

I share your view that ideally things just work themselves out without government regulation. But the problem with this is that the corporations won't stop influencing our governments to their own ends. Getting rid of employee protections without also getting rid of corporate ties seems to be a one sided goal.

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