Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Apr 2012 08:26 UTC
Internet & Networking "The principles of openness and universal access that underpinned the creation of the internet three decades ago are under greater threat than ever, according to Google co-founder Sergey Brin. The threat to the freedom of the internet comes, he claims, from a combination of governments increasingly trying to control access and communication by their citizens, the entertainment industry's attempts to crack down on piracy, and the rise of 'restrictive' walled gardens such as Facebook and Apple, which tightly control what software can be released on their platforms." That governments - east and west - are trying to destroy the open web, that we know. As for Facebook and Apple... Well, all I know is that it is completely and utterly impossible to check what information Apple has about you. Unlike Google (more here) and to a lesser degree Facebook, Apple provides zero means to see, export, or delete the information they have on you, associated with your Apple ID or otherwise. In 2012, that's just sinister.
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RE[2]: hypocrisy, thy name is Brin
by maccouch on Mon 16th Apr 2012 14:13 UTC in reply to "RE: hypocrisy, thy name is Brin"
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"Apple uses that data to better understand how to extract money from you. Google does it to better understand how to extract money from advertisers. I don't see the difference. "

Untill now i have seen no such behaviour from apple. nor any proofs of it. Again, not saying that i can't happen, just saying that, in the present, i don't think that is credible.

"Only very recently did Google turn it on by default for NEW ACCOUNTS ONLY. In other words, you willingly turned it on, and now you;re complaining? Even though you can see all the info and delete it? "

That's not true. I did no enabling. The only thing i did do, was browsing the web and doing search on google.com WHILE logged in to my gmail account. Something that i actually never thought was "wrong".

And the whole "info deletion" considering Google is rather suspicious to me. This is the company that set up gmail to not erase your email messages when deleted by an imap client but rather "archive them". This is the company that still keeps your email messages on their servers even though you set up "forward and delete on receival". This is the company that does 100% of its money by selling your data and profile to advertisers. So , again, i apologize if i don't exactly trust them on their "check what we know about your and delete it if you want"...

Edited 2012-04-16 14:23 UTC

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