Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 21st May 2012 20:03 UTC
Windows For Microsoft, the traditional desktop is old news. It's on its way out, it's legacy, and the harder they claim the desktop has equal rights, the sillier it becomes. With companies, words are meaningless, it's actions that matter, and here Microsoft's actions tell the real story. The company has announced the product line-up for Visual Studio 11, and the free Express can no longer be used to create desktop applications. Message is clear.
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RE[6]: What will their use be?
by Laurence on Tue 22nd May 2012 09:38 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: What will their use be?"
Laurence
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2007-03-26

Before you start to accuse people of voting you down because "haters gonna hate", let me point out the rubbish you've posted:


I don't doubt that Microsoft don't want people to learn things like WinForms and all the other gumpth. It is shit, it is old ... it is very 1990s way of developing.

old != shit

The very fact that cascading windows has survived this long is because it make a lot of sense for desktops.

Redefining the desktop paradigm to suit tablets doesn't make any more sense than having a start menu and cascading windows on smart phones.


But I really don't think a lot of people want to learn [WinForms] either.

The face is Thom that people don't want to use the older techs like WinForms, MFC and all the other crap

You may be content writing websites, but most application developers are not.


... it is just a bit shit tbh.

That's your opinion. Personally I think HTML with embedded JS is more than just a bit shit for building modern interactive websites. The thought of having to build stand alone applications with this technology horrifies me.


There are still plenty of .NET shops that are heavily invested in the older technologies such as WinForm, MFC etc and I don't think support for that will end until a good few years.

Well obviously, otherwise MS would lose a lucrative gaming market as well as the creative professionals that prefer PCs to Macs.

I'm sure Sony and Apple wouldn't mind though ;)

Anyway as you happen to know "more operating system in you little finger" than I do, I am sure you will be able to find one that has a Windowing tiling system to meet your needs.

It's ironic you make such a condescending comment about Thom's lack of OS knowledge while making two fundamental faults in the same sentence:

1/ You can have a tiling window manager and still support WinForms (et al). It's not an either / or argument.

2/ For most people a tiling window manager is completely inappropriate for the desktop. So switching from Metro to xyz still wouldn't be an improvement on the existing explorer.exe shell.


Gnome 2 I have heard is very similar to Windows 95.

http://piestar.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/lucid_vs_windows.png

If you had even the slightest idea what you were talking about, you'd realise how idiotic that statement is.

Most people bitch about GNOME 2.x being an Mac OS knock off and you're comparing it to Windows. Just lol.

Edited 2012-05-22 09:43 UTC

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