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When it comes to WinForms way of programming, it is very dated (very similar to Java Swing which is from the 90s).
There are better options now with .NET (such as XAML), we shouldn't be encouraging people to use older techniques when they are better ones.
The classic desktop isn't going away, just maybe WinForms.
It isn't, I been running Windows 8 now for quite a while and I disagree totally. Also Microsoft are still making improvements to the "classic" desktop such as
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/21/enhancing-windows-8-f...
Dual Taskbar etc. They wouldn't be introducing these things if it was getting "killed".
That wasn't what I was talking about. People are comparing the Express Edition (which is cut down a little to much IMO) to the full Visual Studio Suite.
It is for learning the principles of the framework and the languages. The applications you are likely to create are small and won't have a lot of functionality ... similar to those that maybe used with Metro interface.
If you use JS libraries and use sensible design patterns like MV-VM (knockout.js) for JS/Ajax/Markup generation and use a Server side MVC framework such as RoR, ASP.NET MVC it isn't that painful ... in fact it is fun.
It is painful if you try to custom create everything or hack it which is what most people inexperienced with Development may do.
It depends what you like doing. But nevertheless Microsoft are pushing these platforms quite hard now.
The point is that the Express version of the product is not aimed at these developers. Express is for new developers to learn the "recommended" technologies.
The sort of application you would be making with Express would be metro (if downloading the desktop version) or it would be a blog or something using the Web Express edition.
You cannot make significantly complex applications (without it being a very painful experience) with Express because some of the more advanced features such as intellitrace just aren't included.
I would have thought this is obvious intent. That is why I didn't care for the analysis because it wasn't considering what sort of application one would make (as I alluded to earlier in this comment).
Most people bitch about GNOME 2.x being an Mac OS knock off and you're comparing it to Windows. Just lol.
Well most people are wrong, including you. Gnome 2 can be easily re-jigged to make it work like Window XP/2000 (in fact Suse 9.2 actually shipped with this setup because business clients were used to using Windows 2000/XP).
The full argument is posted here
http://piestar.net/2010/05/01/ubuntu-10-04-lipstick-lynx/
MacOSX doesn't have a global Taskbar (showing open windows) like Windows, Gnome2 and XFCE (can have). The task bar is application centric, i.e. it shows the menu bar for the application.
Fundamentally I think Gnome2 is more like the classic Windows 95-XP interface.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/01/dock-and-wind...
Edited 2012-05-22 13:18 UTC