Linked by Eugenia Loli on Mon 28th May 2012 03:53 UTC
General Development FuriousFanBoys interviews Ben Goertzel regarding Artificial Intelligence. Ben started the OpenCog project (an open sourced AI non-profit), acts as an adviser to the Singularity University, and currently bounces back between Hong Kong and Maryland building in-game AI.
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RE: Memetics
by Relic on Mon 28th May 2012 20:37 UTC in reply to "Memetics"
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I think the differences & similarities between the "architecture" of the brain and the structure of the internet is important to consider if you want try and define consciousness. It's a tough subject, but bear with me, maybe one or two sentences will be useful in this.

What you've laid out is: the brain and internet are both networks, designed for transmitting information at high speed between locations where deliberate processing and redistribution of said information to successively remote or critical locations occurs. Supporting the claim with the example "pc's & their users are not unlike neurons."

The similarities are important if you're going to make the pure deduction that "The internet may be an emerging intelligence", but saying our computational technology as it exists is intelligent is easy.

To my point, the consciousness of the internet is nonexistent, and it cant be conscious.

Evaluate the components and determine the byproducts, limitations, and nature of each system: Wetware, input/output, "reality" processor vs. silicon based semiconductor "experience" repository.

The brain's source of information is not fantastically more sophisticated than the internet, computers can be equipped to process force, motion, light, etc, and if you truly embody each PC as a functioning human in a larger sense then those sensory inputs can be stored and retransmitted, especially in the case of video. What you're missing is the massive disconnect where you taking person out and the internet, as a system, loses all ability to receive new information.

The chemical reactions, subtle electrical signals, and painstaking micrometer scale architecture that governs what, how, and when information is processed are simply more advanced "technology" than a jumble of silicon based transistors and machine code.

Consciousness IS an emergent property, but from where does it emerge? You have to examine what we know, and all we know is our personal consciousness definitively. There really are no absolute rules. We also have some of the worst equipment for experiencing reality of any animal. Our consciousness results exclusively from the most sophisticated components for processing information, the byproduct of which is relevant & positive modification of our environment to enable survival.

Buut, people are born 99% the same as each other, the biggest difference is gender. Yet we still all develop unique (well somewhat anyway) personalities, because we experience the world uniquely. Why? There's no real reason for it, we're all given a brain of the same form. Aberration comes from scale of constituents, DNA is seemingly intentionally susceptible to mutation. I think that consciousness is a sum sufficiently miniaturized parts which create an indivisible whole in the specifically human case.

So if you're looking for purpose in the last few paragraphs: The only model we have for consciousness is us, and if we look at what defines "us" you see something totally different & decidedly superior to the internet, at least on the levels I discussed.

The first strong AI will no doubt be built from intermediary hardware/wetware devices, a direct copy of what happens in the brain and central nervous system made smaller & from superior materials. Not an emergent, background, all encompassing internet AI at all.

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