Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 31st May 2012 12:24 UTC
Windows "Microsoft has been furiously ripping out legacy code in Windows 8 that would have enabled third parties to bring back the Start button, Start Menu, and other software bits that could have made this new OS look and work like its predecessor. In fact, I've seen that several well-known UI hacks that worked fine with the Windows 8 Consumer Preview are no longer functional in the coming Release Preview. And those with hopes that Microsoft would allow businesses, at least, to boot directly to the desktop should prepare for disappointment. That feature not only isn't happening, it's being removed from Windows Server 12 (Windows 8's stable mate) as well." When you buy a new machine later this year, you will use Metro, an environment wholly inferior, incomplete, and not at all ready to replace the traditional desktop in any way, shape, or form. Whether you like it or not.
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RE: Comment by AnythingButVista
by TemporalBeing on Thu 31st May 2012 18:29 UTC in reply to "Comment by AnythingButVista"
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First, I don't see anything wrong with businesses skipping Windows 8 until Microsoft gets Metro fully fleshed and ready for productive prime time. And I think Microsoft can enhance Metro enough to make it productive, but I don't see that happening until Windows 9 or in the best case, Windows 8 SP 2.


FYI - Win9 will be Win8 SP2, just like Win7 was Vista SP2. It's their new release scheme - one release, one service pack, new release. There have been a few exceptions, but that's there general goal.

I still remember the people's resistance when Windows 95 came in. I also remember similar resistance when Windows XP was first released with the cheesiest UI ever to come out in an operating system. So yes, resistance to Metro is totally normal (and expected by Microsoft).


Win95 was 100% compatible with Win3.x software.
WinXP was nearly 100% compatible with Win9x/ME software.

Win8 will not be even 50% compatible with existing software. Win8 RT won't run existing Windows software; and Win8 for x86 will have all kinds of UI gaffes, and hindrances to productivity (oops, accidentally hit the WinKey, back to Metro for you), and more.

I for once am not a big fan of tabletizing my desktop but I know Microsoft can pull this one off, even if it takes up to Windows 9 to get a fully-productive and more customizable Metro environment. In the meantime, the old desktop is still there to run data entry and other complex applications that don't fit with Metro in its current form.


But it's not quite still there - it's there in a broken form to try to keep some semblance of compatibility while ripping the carpet out from under the user to through them to the new UI.

Win9 will either be the first release in a downward spiral for MS, revert to being more like Win7 to try to regain market share, or never happen. Most likely, it'll be more like Win7 - but it all depends on how committed MS is to its own demise and push to mobile everything.

FYI: Vista sucked, not because of the changes in the UI but because it dragged its feet on machines where XP flew and as demonstrated by Windows 7 running much faster than Vista (albeit understandably slower than XP) on the same hardware, Vista's excessive weight was totally unnecessary.


Vista didn't suck - that's mainly a perception due to the UAC, which was a necessary evil.

Yes, it wasn't as performant as XP. It also had several massive rewrites in its layers, and a better interactive model between the components. Win7 is Vista optimized, more or less, with a few enhancements.

What worries me about Windows 8 and what doesn't get me at all excited to adopt it, (I haven't even bothered downloading the preview), isn't Metro but the new lock-in tactics employed by Microsoft: blocking dual-booting alternative OS in ARM hardware, only allowing Metro apps in their app store and disallowing application sideloading of Metro apps. That's the kind of OS jail I don't want to be trapped in.


Agreed.

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