Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 11th Jul 2012 10:15 UTC
In the News Andrew Binstock interviews Alan Kay, and there are just so many fantastic quotes and insights in there I have no idea what to pick as the OSNews item. This one? "Pop culture holds a disdain for history. Pop culture is all about identity and feeling like you're participating. It has nothing to do with cooperation, the past or the future - it's living in the present," Kay argues, "I think the same is true of most people who write code for money. They have no idea where [their culture came from] - and the Internet was done so well that most people think of it as a natural resource like the Pacific Ocean, rather than something that was man-made. When was the last time a technology with a scale like that was so error-free? The Web, in comparison, is a joke. The Web was done by amateurs." What about this gem? "I was never a great programmer. That's what got me into making more powerful programming languages." Or, my personal favourite: "My interest in education is unglamorous. I don't have an enormous desire to help children, but I have an enormous desire to create better adults." Read this. Now. That's an order.
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RE[2]: The guy is an Elitist
by olefiver on Wed 11th Jul 2012 18:41 UTC in reply to "RE: The guy is an Elitist"
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Uh, is getting Socrates into heaven some sort of major theological issue that I've never heard of?

It's not specifically about Socrates, but Socrates is often used as an example of a non-christian that should be admitted into heaven, but since he was not baptized, he can't.

I would say it is a theological problem, but not major one, so I'm not surprised that you haven't heard about it.
Although I've not heard about this in relation to not being baptized.
I remember it as all good men that hasn't heard of Jesus and his word can't get into heaven, but instead of hell those get dropped into Limbo (or something like it) where they shall live out the afterlife not in eternal damnation, 'cause they haven't heard the good word, but also not in the presence of God, 'cause they haven't heard the good word...

Anyhoo, I kinda liked the solution the mormons came up with. Which is the reason Kay brought the whole thing up, as an analogy to Bob Barton not getting a Turing 'cause the Turing isn't awarded posthumously.

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