Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Aug 2012 23:54 UTC
Legal And just like that, within a matter of days, the jury has reached a verdict in Apple vs. Samsung. The basic gist is simple: Apple's software patents are valid, and many Samsung devices infringe upon them. Apple's iPhone 3G trade dress is valid, and Samsung's Galaxy S line infringes, but other devices did not. Samsung did not infringe Apple's iPad design patent. Apple did not infringe any of Samsung's patents. Apple is awarded a little over $1 billion in damages. Competition lost today, and developers in the United States should really start to get worried - software patents got validated big time today.
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RE: Everybody wins
by galvanash on Sat 25th Aug 2012 01:20 UTC in reply to "Everybody wins"
galvanash
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2006-01-25

This is good for consumers, the industry and the whole tech market.


How is taking a large sum of money away from Samsung and giving it to Apple "good for consumers"??? What benefit do consumers get out of this at all?

How does creating an environment where implementing obvious UI conventions could cost you a Billion dollars benefit the tech industry???

This probably even be good for Samsung, in the long run, as it is freed from it's addiction to cloning and will be forced to start innovating,


Addiction to cloning??? Are you f*cking serious? Half the silicon in an iPhone is made by Samsung... They make tons of stuff, most of it things that Apple doesn't even think about making. Even giving you the benefit of the doubt due to this court decision, saying Samsung is "addicted to cloning" is extreme hyperbole.

Samsung has a long record of ruthlessly copying competitors products, not just in detail but blatantly and on a large scale. With Apple's massively disruptive entry into the smart phone market followed closely by it's spectacular remaking and domination of the tablet market Samsung's copying of Apple entered a new and more intense phase. Samsung copied not just Apple's products but also the ads, the packaging, the retail stores, the works.


Does Apple have patents on stylish Ads? What about having a gadget store - did they patent that too? What difference does it make if they copied things like that - everyone copies from successful businesses. The problem is you think that there is something wrong with it.

This sort of shit needs to stop otherwise the development of the technology business and markets will slow to a snails pace as everyone produces tedious 'me-too' products and nobody bothers to innovate because all their efforts, investment and creativity would be simply and immediately copied.


You see copying... I see progressive refinement. You can't have the later without some of the former.

I suppose you think that we would all be better off if Apple had won their "Look and Feel" case against Microsoft? Do you think things like BeOS, Gnome, KDE, etc. would have ever existed in that alternate reality???

Hell, the entire PC industry was CREATED through willfull, blatant copying! You do realize that modern Macs are now decedents of IBM's original PC platform don't you? Apple didn't seem to have an moral objections to willfully copying that...

You want to see things slow down to a snail pace??? Make doing patent clearances on software become a financial imperative. Slow down? More like stop dead.

Well done and thank you.

No doubt this will be appealed but this is a big blow to poor old Samsung who will now have to come up with their own designs. Perhaps they can appeal on the basis that being forced to create their own original designs is a form of 'cruel and unusual punishment'.


Gloat all you want - I guess the verdict gives you the right. But I predict this shit is going to get a lot messier before its all said and done.

There is one ray of light in this decision: A lot of software companies who thought they could stay quietly on the fence concerning software patents are going to start rethinking their positions now...

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