Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 28th Sep 2012 21:51 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
General Development "When I started writing programs in the late 80s it was pretty primitive and required a lot of study and skill. I was a young kid doing this stuff, the adults at that time had it even worse and some of them did start in the punch card era. This was back when programmers really had to earn their keep, and us newer generations are losing appreciation for that. A generation or two ago they may have been been better coders than us. More importantly they were better craftsmen, and we need to think about that." I'm no programmer, but I do understand that the current crop of programmers could learn a whole lot from older generations. I'm not going to burn my fingers on if they were better programmers or not, but I do believe they have a far greater understanding of the actual workings of a computer. Does the average 'app developer' have any clue whatsoever about low-level code, let alone something like assembly?
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Web "developers"
by biffuz on Sat 29th Sep 2012 13:27 UTC
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I don't know about "app developers", but I can claim for personal experience that a large part of self-proclaimed "web developers" have absolutely no clue about what programming means.
Some gems I've heard from this kind of people:
- Nobody ever used Java really
- C is an extinct dinosaur
- C++ is for geeks only, the Linux apps I'm using right now are written in QT
- The kernel isn't part of the operating system
- What's the kernel?
- You don't need to turn strings into bytes anymore, modern CPUs can do the math with strings as well
- Javascript is as fast as assembly if not faster
- You can't even develop in assembly anymore
- PHP doesn't need algorithms

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