Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 18th Oct 2012 18:15 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu 12.10 has been released, sporting the rather... Interesting tagline 'Avoid the pain of Windows 8'. Two main features are that websites can now be treated as actual applications, integrating them into Unity. The divide between local and online content when searching has also been softened, which, they claim, makes it easier to find what you're looking for. On the server side, it includes the Folsom release of OpenStack, "Cinder, for block storage and Quantum, a virtual networking API. Ubuntu's Metal-as-a-Service bare-metal provisioning tool has been updated and now supports Calxeda hyperscale hardware based on ARM".
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by lemur2 on Sat 20th Oct 2012 04:48 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: ..."
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"Then of course when it comes to your time and effort (have you ever waited through over an hour, and no less than four reboots, for Windows to get through an update? I have)


Four reboots? Windows updates can be annoying, but I don't think I've ever seen that many...

The two worst upgrade experiences I've ever had were with Linux. In both cases I was dumped to the CLI after updating because something had broken X.

Most non-rolling distributions recommend a clean install when there's a new version, and there are often lots of problems if you don't. Reinstalling an OS completely is a more time consuming process than installing a service pack, even if that means rebooting a few times.

I have to laugh at the idea that Linux would save me time and effort. I probably spend 90% of my time using Windows, but easily 90% of the time I've had to spend solving problems has been down to Linux issues. To me the idea that Linux is as easy to use as Windows is a total fantasy.
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As it happens, I have just gone through both experiences (a Windows update and a new Linux distribution) in the past fortnight.

My daughter is undertaking a course, and she needs to run some Windows apps in order to complete it. Her laptop was purchased back in 2004, and it was not up to the task. I happened to have a Windows 7 netbook that I wasn't using (hadn't used it for six months or so), so I dusted it off and brought it up to date. There were 79 updates, it took well over two hours and four reboots. Then I spent another hour searching the net for the applications she wanted, downloading and installing them.

Yesterday, I updated the machine on which I am typing this to Kubuntu 12.10. I keep the root "/" OS and /home on separate partitions, so I just booted from a live USB, reformatted "/" whilst leaving "/home" unchanged, and re-installed the OS. I then set that localisation to Australia, the system language to English(Australia), I set up the same users as before, and then fired up the package manager, and from there I selected and installed the dozen or so applications that I normally use which are not part of the default install. All of this took me just one reboot and about 20 minutes.

Here is a 48 second video of someone using the Kubuntu 12.04 package manager (muon) to install something (Chromium web browser):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VBZEdCfwT8

They were a bit slower than needs be. My modest laptop is faster than the machine in that video.

Questions?

Edited 2012-10-20 05:03 UTC

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