Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 13:36 UTC
Legal "One of the exhibits Samsung has now made public tells an interesting tale. It's the slide presentation that Apple showed Samsung when it first tried (and failed) to get Samsung to license Apple's patents prior to the start of litigation. While some of the numbers were earlier reported on when the exhibit was used at trial, the slides themselves provide more data - specifically on the difference between what Apple wanted Samsung to pay for Windows phones and for Android phones. The slides punch huge holes in Apple's FRAND arguments. Apple and Microsoft complain to regulators about FRAND rates being excessive and oppressive at approximately $6 per unit, or 2.4%; but the Apple offer was not only at a much higher rate, it targeted Android in a way that seems deliberately designed to destroy its ability to compete in the marketplace." Eagerly awaiting the 45 paragraph comment explaining how this is completely fair and not hypocritical at all. Bonus points if it includes something about Eric Schmidt being on Apple's board, and, double bonus point if it mentions one of the QWERTY Android prototypes. Mega Epic Bonus if it somehow manages to draw a line from Edison, Tesla, to Jobs.
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RE[8]: Dubious argument
by flypig on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 17:02 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Dubious argument"
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No, I saw no claim by Apple that these are essential patents. I only see groklaw making up new classes of patents.

I guess it depends on what's meant by "essential". The slides imply that Apple patents cover: basic telephony, O/S, Object Oriented, Touch, GUI, apps, music, etc.

An "Advanced Mobile" licence (slide 8) more specifically is implied to cover:

- Multitouch user interface
- Apps and App Store
- iTunes media store and media player
- Real Web and Web services
- Advanced sensors and device context
- Service-oriented offering

Some of these look pretty essential to me. However, whether or not any or all of these are actually covered by the patents (rather than just implied by the slides) is another matter.

[Edit: fixed formatting.]

Edited 2012-10-22 17:04 UTC

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