Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 13:36 UTC
Legal "One of the exhibits Samsung has now made public tells an interesting tale. It's the slide presentation that Apple showed Samsung when it first tried (and failed) to get Samsung to license Apple's patents prior to the start of litigation. While some of the numbers were earlier reported on when the exhibit was used at trial, the slides themselves provide more data - specifically on the difference between what Apple wanted Samsung to pay for Windows phones and for Android phones. The slides punch huge holes in Apple's FRAND arguments. Apple and Microsoft complain to regulators about FRAND rates being excessive and oppressive at approximately $6 per unit, or 2.4%; but the Apple offer was not only at a much higher rate, it targeted Android in a way that seems deliberately designed to destroy its ability to compete in the marketplace." Eagerly awaiting the 45 paragraph comment explaining how this is completely fair and not hypocritical at all. Bonus points if it includes something about Eric Schmidt being on Apple's board, and, double bonus point if it mentions one of the QWERTY Android prototypes. Mega Epic Bonus if it somehow manages to draw a line from Edison, Tesla, to Jobs.
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RE[3]: Incredible
by phoudoin on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 19:42 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Incredible"
phoudoin
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If Apple has patents that competitors need in order to successfully compete, they can either pay what Apple asks or they can not compete. There is no law that requires they give access to other competitors so they can successfully compete with Apple.


*Successfully*, of course not.

But could try, I really think there is.
Otherwise, Apple could just ask $100 billions per unit for touchscreen patents and rule the touchscreen devices marketfield until the world's ending.

Touchscreen is presented as an unavoidable technology increasing the smartphone license rate in quite every slides here. It's clearly an attempt to raise 20% the enter price in hope that would make the Windows Phone 40% discount more interesting for Samsung.

The target in these slides is not Samsung.
It's Android. It's written everywhere : drop Android.
Without any proof that Android actually infring Apple patents beside the usual "it use our technologies".

No wonder Samsung don't buy it.
If Apple was not that hangry, asking for a $5-10 rate, maybe they would have.
Instead, they reject it and goes full straight. They may lost in suits, but they win far more in marketshare.

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