Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Oct 2012 23:34 UTC
Games I'm not 100% sure this is actually word-for-word, but alas. "In a presentation at Ubuntu Developer Summit currently going on in Denmark, Drew Bliss from Valve said that Linux is more viable than Windows 8 for gaming. Windows 8 ships with its own app store and it is moving away from an open platform model." I feel like a broken record by now but here we go again: keep an eye on Valve, even if you're not into games. This is the company pushing NVIDIA and AMD to improve their Linux support, with enough clout and name to actually get stuff done. Valve doesn't mess around.
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ansidotsys
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I can understand your viewpoint then, but I suppose the point on which we disagree is whether or not they can get away with it. I, for one, don't think they can even if they tried. As I've mentioned, they tried with the .NET Framework to move the world to a managed code world. It failed. Microsoft fails at many things.

They failed to move the world to Windows as quickly as they wanted. The industry only moved to Windows when the industry itself said it was ready. If it was up to Microsoft, we would've moved to Windows at 1.0. It took until Windows 98SE to get where most the PC industry moved to a pure Windows model and moved away from DOS.

If it was up to Microsoft, Vista would have been a success and all applications would have been programmed in WPF. That did not happen, devs stuck with Win32 and many people stayed with Windows XP -- against Microsoft wishes. It took Windows 7 to bring that larger move over, a move in which Microsoft themselves updated their built-in Win32 apps (like Paint and WordPad).

In the many failed initiatives Microsoft had, the industry kept Microsoft honest by just continuing to use technology they felt was best. If that technology wasn't Mircosoft's latest and greatest, then so be it. That has always been the pattern. Microsoft responds by trying again, until it finds something that WE accept.

The same is going to be true today, whether it be Metro or some sort abandonment of the desktop. If we don't like the taste of the next version of Windows, it won't get eaten and it won't get sold (look at the downgrades that happened with Vista for XP). Right now, the desktop is alive and ready in Windows 8. If Windows 9 closes the desktop, the industry will just say with Windows 8. If Windows 9 doesn't do it, but MS does it in Windows 10. Then the industry will stay with Windows 9. See Microsoft's predicament?

I'm not underestimating the allure of money and total control, but I do think you're underestimating the market's ability and real power to vote with their wallet. And THAT is what will affect Microsoft the most, just as it always has. Like I said, Microsoft won't abandon the desktop and it's distribution model until WE, as a collective industry, say so.

Edited 2012-10-31 18:18 UTC

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