Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 11th Nov 2012 15:49 UTC
Windows "Yesterday my desktop died, and so I went ahead and got a brand new Windows 8 laptop. It's always been my feeling that as years go on, user experience has been going down for people who use a computer and the Internet, because of decisions all companies make that are clearly anti-user, either because they think they know best, or in many cases, for financial gains. But from spending all night reinstalling everything and customizing the laptop, I realized just how bad it has become." Probably the biggest reason to go Mac or Linux. Such a shame Microsoft found it more important to pressure OEMs into silly Secure Boot nonsense instead of doing something about the anti-user crapware disaster. Goes to show who Microsoft cares about. Hint: it ain't you.
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Just how bad it has become? What?
by WereCatf on Sun 11th Nov 2012 16:35 UTC
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None of the things the author here is complaining about are any new, the pre-installed crap and all have been there already since Windows '95 - days. It isn't something has just happened recently, yet the author acts like he's totally surprised. Secondly, complaining about the Smartscreen filter is, well, somewhat short-sighted: it doesn't exist to protect experienced users from themselves, it exists to protect the exact opposite kind of users. Experienced users are expected to take the few extra steps needed to disable it. Personally I find the current approach better than not having such, even if it might annoy us geeks.

And well, if he insists on installing Adobe Reader or QuickTime then it's all his own fault; there's plenty of good, free alternatives to both. These things have been pushing for such crap for YEARS now, so there's no good reason to act surprised all of a sudden.

Now, that said I agree in general: there are lots of software packages that try to bundle this or that with them, with some packages even going so far as to installing spying background tasks without ever mentioning it to the user at all. IMHO there should be some sort of a law against such, the applications should offer the chance for user to install such bundles, but that would need to be a conscious decision on the user's part instead of the default action in the installer.

Similarly, one thing I already proposed years ago is that PC-manufacturers should stop pre-installing all that stuff and instead on the first boot show the user a list of various current deals -- this would allow the manufacturer to keep their deals up-to-date at all times, and it would allow the users to easily skip all of them or only install the interesting ones. In general it would be a win-win.


Goes to show who Microsoft cares about. Hint: it ain't you.

Thom, you know that's a silly, ignorant tangent. Microsoft is actually pushing for OEMs to NOT pre-install all this stuff. Blaming Microsoft for all this crap is disingenious and shows a clear, negative bias.

Edited 2012-11-11 16:37 UTC

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