Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 12th Nov 2012 15:56 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Can you believe they've come this far by now? Once known as OpenBeOS, Haiku today announced the release of the fourth alpha for Haiku R1. It seems like only yesterday when BeOS died and OpenBeOS rose form its ashes, generating a new hope among the legions of avid BeOS fans. Now, almost twelve years later, we've hit the fourth alpha.
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RE[9]: Sarcasm much?
by henderson101 on Wed 14th Nov 2012 15:54 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Sarcasm much?"
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Well iot reminds me of riscos... riscos is/was not horrible, but I do find that haiko's interface horrible, especially the short title bars.

Which you can move and so therefore have multiple windows on top of each other and switch between using the title bars. This was a hidden gem in BeOS.

I used mac at uni the whole webdesign departemnt had them. I dislike the way it functions, even the new macos lion is not something I like.

The Mac OS X bears little relation to Classic Mac OS... it's more like NextStep mixed with the general essence of MacOS classic.

Risc os looked great.

When? It only ever looked ugly to me. I used it from Arthur right up to RISCOS 3.7. I've owned both an A3000 and an A7000 in the past. The UI graphics looked half finished most of the time.

I never had problems with it. I found the file type system great, never knew theat macos had teh same.

Yep, and first. Mac OS had "creator codes" that tied the file to an app in the same way. In RISCOS, I remember having to have a utility that you would drag files on to to change the file type - which was some esoteric 3 digit number (was it HEX? I forget...)

What was great was the app folders, the ram disc and system monitor.

The App folders were a PITA to move via any compression system other than !Spark. The !Run and !Runimage files were a pain in the arse to set up. The RISCOS ADFS was horrible, the drive access syntax was horrible, the OS on the command line was horrible (and generally revolved around remembering obscure *fx commands as I remember it.) The BASIC was okay, but that the early versions had no way to edit and run BASIC in the !Desktop was a complete joke. Half baked. The file "save" was all very well, except you needed to have navigated to where you wanted to save the document, because god forbid you wanted to drag it to the !Desktop - that was just not cricket.

The App monitor was essential.. it was the only way to reclaim memory when your apps crashed.. no memory protection and co-operative mutitasking.. oh, joyful hell.

If you're impressed by the RAM disk, I think you need to get out more ;-) It used system memory, it therefore reduced the amount of RAM you had... oops! A 1MB A3xx didn't have that much to begin with!

Also - back to folders - they added !System to the ROM.... F them in the A-hole.. who thought that was a good idea? The !System was an effing pain in the arse to begin with..??? (a magic directory that loads relocatable modules for you by request!! (except there is no guaranty the !System on your disk has the right modules in it... )) It made using software harder, not easier.

"Why? I don't get why people keep saying this. Because it doesn't have alpha blended compositing and GL rendered windows? Seriously?

No because of the way it functions and the way it looks. Looks are important we see first with our eyes.

It functions almost identically to Windows "My Computer" if you bother to change the settings to "Single window browsing, show path in title and show explorer controls" in the Tracker settings. Before that, it works pretty much like classic Mac OS (which it was modelled on.)

"RISCOS was ugly...

Why? I don't get why people keep saying this. Because it doesn't have alpha blended compositing and GL rendered windows? Seriously?

RISCOS was ugly because the graphics look dated, the window dressing is poorly rendered and looks cluttered, the mouse pointer is ugly, the later versions that allowed more chrome on the windows just make it look worse.

"If you really don't understand the motivation and you don't understand the reasoning, I suggest you pack up, cut your losses, delete you OS News account and go home. Geekism is not for you ;-)

Why should I delete my account because I disagree with you and can't see the point in haiko - what a stupid thing to say!

No, you should delete your account if you can;t understand the "motivation"... these aren't the droids you are looking for. Move along.

Also not understanding my reasoning is your problem

It's not a problem I worry about, if we want to call it a problem. I fully understand their motivation, I appreciate their effort and I don't come here to trash a current open source OS that is actually doing something cool.

Edited 2012-11-14 16:02 UTC

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