Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 28th Nov 2012 15:17 UTC
Windows "As we pass the one month anniversary of the general availability of Windows 8, we are pleased to announce that to-date Microsoft has sold 40 million Windows 8 licenses. Tami Reller shared this news with industry and financial analysts, investors and media today at the Credit Suisse 2012 Annual Technology Conference. Windows 8 is outpacing Windows 7 in terms of upgrades." Not bad, but there are the usual asterisks, as Ars notes.
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RE[2]: But....
by TemporalBeing on Wed 28th Nov 2012 20:47 UTC in reply to "RE: But...."
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"How many of those were "downgraded" to Win7?
How many of those were Win8->Win8 upgrades? (e.g. User didn't like the edition that came and tried upgrading to a higher level).
In the end, how much is real sales vs. double counting?

The issue with quoting numbers from WinVista and Win7 is that there was double and triple counting of sales in there. The question is, how much of that is going on with Win8?

All-in-all, not impressed.


Any proof of any of this? Probably not.


The sales numbers they were providing were proof enough.

Sales are based on licenses sold. Vista Pro included a license for XP, so did Win7. During the first few months when MS was claiming record sales, it was also shown that most were reverted to XP systems. So, sale of Vista/Win7 did not necessarily mean someone using Win7.

Now add to it the fact that with WinVista and even more so with WinXP, most got a very limited version of Windows (sale #1), and would therefore need to upgrade the version (sale #2). While one can technically count these as separate sales of separate licenses (they are), it would in fact be double-dipping the sale for the same system. So unless you differentiate this in the numbers (which was not likely) then you have inflated numbers.

My question is - are they doing the same with Win8. There are certainly fewer versions, but as Win8 systems seem to be sitting on the shelves their sales of 40 million in the first month seem a little unbelievable - it's not like 7.5% of the US population went out and bought a new computer in 1 month - and if its world-wide, that's even less remarkable.

[q][q]And, BTW, I'll only use Win8 in a proper environment - in a virtual machine where Windows belongs.


Oh good for you. Can you open source Linux guys just leave the snide remarks for once. Every thread that even mentions Microsoft you gotta mention how crap it is.

Windows 7 and 8 are perfectly good Operating systems. XP and Vista were a bit flakey until a couple of service packs, but have been pretty solid.
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WinXP was hardly flaky at any point in its life. Just like Win2k, and Win7 they were all pretty solid releases. The issue with XP is the interface - its very eX-Professional - very childish.

WinVista's biggest issue was driver support and that was primarily due to MS changing driver interfaces at the last moment - between RC2 and RTM. The other big issue was UAC - something MS had been warning developers about for a long time.

Win8's biggest issue is the UI. I'm sure its just as stable as and better performing than Win7 - namely due to the Windws Dev process put in place since the start of Vista.

However, Windows still remains a major security whole, and one that can only be plugged properly in a virtual environment. it's just the design of the system and its APIs. It's yet to be seen whether the WinRT API will help resolve the security issues of Win32 - I haven't looked at it very closely yet.

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