Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 6th Dec 2012 05:26 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes With computers now shipping with UEFI Secure Boot enabled, users of any OS other than Windows 8 will want to know how to circumvent it. Jesse Smith of DistroWatch tells how he did it here. The Linux Foundation describes its approach here. If you want to boot an OS other than Windows 8, you'll want to figure this out before you buy that new computer.
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RE[5]: Comment by kaiwai
by Alfman on Sat 8th Dec 2012 05:03 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai"
Alfman
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2011-01-28

kaiwai,

"1) Stop conflating UEFI with secure boot - they're not interchangeable."

I've conflated them? I've reread that quote and the instances of "UEFI" and "secure boot" were both correct and intentional. Secure boot is a subset of the UEFI standard that's required now by microsoft. I think we both already know this, so please let us not fuss.

"2) The issue is a crappy/buggy firmware which can occur in ANY motherboard and not just some nefarious evil doer rubbing their hands with glee dreaming up new ways to screw over the 'growing Linux user base'."

I'm sorry but I don't know what this is in response to?

"3) Buggy firmware impacts on Windows users just as it impacts on alternative operating systems as well - it is just that Microsoft has the time and resources to spend working around the crapnastic nature of many motherboard vendors out there."

Ditto here. But I'd add that manufacturers go out of their way to explicitly make their wares compatible with windows. Linux doesn't get the same attention.


"4) I just had a check out of the MSI motherboard in question and they made no secret that it uses UEFI - all you have to do is download their manual and read it. Again, the issue isn't with UEFI but its poor implementation and like any horrible product you make the decision based on reviews, feedback from family and friends, asking online forums etc. Microsoft is in no way responsible for MSI's lack time and effort when it comes to putting out a motherboard with a well tested and debugged firmware."

I'm taking the article's claims at face value. I'd be disappointed if the author lied and the specs were listed at his merchant's website, but it doesn't really change his conclusion about secure boot: "Software freedom requires vigilance and I fear that is more true now than it was a year ago. Be careful when shopping for new computers, it is easy to purchase more trouble than one bargained for."

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