Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 6th Dec 2012 05:26 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes With computers now shipping with UEFI Secure Boot enabled, users of any OS other than Windows 8 will want to know how to circumvent it. Jesse Smith of DistroWatch tells how he did it here. The Linux Foundation describes its approach here. If you want to boot an OS other than Windows 8, you'll want to figure this out before you buy that new computer.
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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by Neolander on Sat 8th Dec 2012 08:06 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
Neolander
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Then don't buy motherboards or computers off dodgy vendors who do such things in the first place. You know, the whole concept of 'putting ones money where ones mouth is". I guess I'll have to book mark this statement as well to see whether your horror story comes true in 2-4 years time just as a certain other person on this website claimed that OS X will be locked down and become 'AppStore only' in the future.

Please do so, I am ready to bet. I could even add some extra items to the prediction if you like:

The Linux scene, as of today, is too big to disappear in one day in the event of a Secure Boot apocalypse. There are too much professional interests invested on it. So what would likely happen is that we'd see more hardware manufacturers designing specifically for Linux support, kind of like what happens with Android phones and all these credit-card sized ARM computer projects that have popped up recently.

Since Windows is a clunky beast that requires lots of support from hardware manufacturers, it won't run properly on such machines, even in a VM. The Linux community will thus lose all these users who like and use the OS, but still have to run Windows from time to time because they need some piece of software at work or want to play better games. What will remain will thus be a mix of die-hard zealots and people who need Linux for work and solely use it there.

And even if some that are nostalgic about the C64/Amiga era could perhaps see such a scenario as a good thing ("OMG ! Integration !") , I personally think that it would be a disaster. Without the presence of "regular users" that report bugs, voice their opinion, and attempt to calm things down a bit, the developers would likely tend much more often to go completely overboard, Poettering-style. That is, they would change whatever part of the stack they think is ugly without much concern for stability, compatibility, and everyday usability. This would, in turn, irritate entreprise customers, who would become even more protective of whatever software version works, and stick with 10-year old software with long-solved bugs to this end. And, in turn, reduce the amount of testing that new software gets, perpetuating this vicious circle.

And the zealot population wouldn't care, they are ready to spend money in hardware that only runs Linux, know how to fix their stuff and can remove/replace whatever is released in a broken state anyway. Perhaps they would be the only ones that would be happy in such a scenario, since at last Linux would get the recognition that it deserves instead of perpetually living in the shadow of Windows.

I would estimate that things would become noticeably unbearable for new users at most 10 years after full UEFI lockdown, so 12-14 years after now, if UEFI lockdown does happen, you'll be able to tell me if I was wrong.

As for OSX, the extended prediction is simpler. Considering the attitude of most Mac fans around me when I express my concerns about the path Apple is currently heading, I'll predict that a technically skilled minority (10-25%) will try alternatives to see if they can match their needs and moral convictions better, while the vast majority will just consider the lockdown as some sort of divine punishment for humanity's sins and accept it as a fact of life without much complaining.

Edited 2012-12-08 08:11 UTC

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