Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th Dec 2012 19:11 UTC
In the News "Peers and scientists including Professor Stephen Hawking are once again pushing for an official pardon for codebreaker Alan Turing. Turing's death from cyanide poisoning in 1954 was ruled a suicide, coming after his conviction for gross indecency at a time when homosexuality was illegal." The fact that he still hasn't been pardoned is an utter disgrace.
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RE: fat lot of good
by Laurence on Sun 16th Dec 2012 13:04 UTC in reply to "fat lot of good"
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A fat lot of good a pardon will do at this point. The man is dead. Even if pardoned, it doesn't change the fact that he was persecuted for being gay.

It's just people in the scientific and IT industries wanting to stick of for their peers. And while the intentions are honourable, most people on here seem to have missed the side effects of such an action.

These are my views; I'm British and very open minded about peoples sexuality and yet against this proposal.

Regardless of whether the law was unjust, it was the law and Turing was guilty. I genuinely wish the circumstances were different, but they weren't. So if we set a precedence that historic figures are now considered innocent then where the hell do you draw the line? It would make current laws infinitely more difficult to maintain because any future change to the law could potentially see guilty people freed from jail on technicalities, or even innocent people sent to jail because of actions they did in their past.

What's more, you open up scope for countless liable cases. People descended from those that are now pardoned will have a genuine case to sue the government. And given the huge numbers of people involved, it could be massively expensive (which would do the us much more damage given we're trying to fight off a recession).

The problem is, as noble as this gesture might be, it's such a dangerous presidence to set. The only positive outcome is entirely perceived as we can't change the past. But such a gesture would have massively unpredictable repercussions in the future.

So while I really do have the greatest sympathy for Turing and everyone else affected by that retarded piece of legislation, a pardon is the wrong way to offer up an apology. (and quite honestly, I'm surprised Hawkins backed this idea; I would have thought a British genius like himself would have realised the dangers of such a proposal).

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