Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 19:05 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Expected, but still insanely cool: Canonical has just announced Ubuntu for phones. This is a new mobile phone operating system, with its own user interface and development platform. It's built around Qt5 and QML, and the interface reminds me of MeeGo on the N9. It's supposed to be on the shelves in early 2014, but the developer preview is out today.
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RE[8]: I want one!
by vidarh on Fri 4th Jan 2013 16:35 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: I want one!"
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Okay, so let's talk specifically then. What exactly makes C# worse than many OS offerings?

For starters it's designed to run in a VM, dragging all kinds of extra baggage with it. More importantly: It is little used by Linux developers. If Ubuntu wishes to draw on existing software developers familiar with Linux, and on existing software written for Linux, it is a bad choice because they'd be alienating most of the developers already familiar with their OS, and throwing out the vast majority of existing code.

See, no! This can't happen. Microsoft has made a LEGALLY BINDING promise not to sue over any patents included in C# or the .NET specifications.

You're naive. There's plenty of indication that Microsoft were pulling strings in the SCO case, for example, via an investment vehice. Even if they weren't, there's nothing stopping them from pulling a stunt like that going forward. Microsoft might have made a promise. But that promise is only on behalf of themselves, and would not prevent them from throwing some lucrative deals to the right patent trolls. There's also nothing stopping them from using *other* patents to threaten companies with a long, drawn out patent lawsuit to punish c# use they don't like without breaking their promise.

Putting your faith in the morality of someone who is convicted of repeatedly breaking anti-trust law is rather risky.

The complete callous disrespect with which the Mono team is treated in the Linux community is appalling.

We're under no obligation to like their product, nor are we under any obligation to take the substantial risk,whether legal or technological of having Microsoft try to throw us under the bus. More than enough of us are old enough to remember the blatant law breaking Microsoft engaged in to crush competition, and though they seem to have mellowed over the years, some place many of us draw the line, and depending on a language coming out of Redmond is well over the line for quite a few of us.

That it looks and feels like Java doesn't exactly make it better - the Java dependency is largely what's kept me from doing much Android development. If a phone version of Ubuntu were to tie itself to c# what would be the point? I might as well stick to Android in that case. If I'm going to consider Ubuntu for my phone, it would be to get something more Linux-ish, not something with the bad taste of Microsoft-isms attached.

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