Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 5th Jan 2013 14:53 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y And so this situation is starting to get ridiculous - and consumers are, as usual, caught in the middle of it all. Google has just blocked Windows Phone devices from accessing Google Maps on their phones. In addition, it also seems Windows Phone users are now restricted to the basic HTML version of the mobile GMail website. While understandable from a defensive perspective - Microsoft's extortion scheme targeting Android device makers and all that - it's still a massive dick move that only hurts consumers. Update: the media attention has worked - Google is backpedalling, and will remove the redirect. "We periodically test Google Maps compatibility with mobile browsers to make sure we deliver the best experience for those users. In our last test, IE mobile still did not offer a good maps experience with no ability to pan or zoom and perform basic map functionality. As a result, we chose to continue to redirect IE mobile users to Google.com where they could at least make local searches. The Firefox mobile browser did offer a somewhat better user experience and that’s why there is no redirect for those users. Recent improvements to IE mobile and Google Maps now deliver a better experience and we are currently working to remove the redirect. We will continue to test Google Maps compatibility with other mobile browsers to ensure the best possible experience for users."
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RE[6]: Why does HTML5 exist?
by delta0.delta0 on Sun 6th Jan 2013 03:46 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Why does HTML5 exist?"
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Firstly let me say Good ! Then to say this post is a lot longer than I intended it to be initially.


There are aspects that you are missing, what platforms support what web browsers? :

Apple does lock it to their rendering engine ie webkit / safari build, but still allows chrome and other browsers in the appstore.

Android supports multiple browsers, available from the play store.

Blackberry has allowed multiple different browsers, not sure about bb10 but I bet it will allow multiple browsers still.

What about Windows Phone ? AFAIK only IE is allowed.

Luckily for all of us, WP owns 2% market share, To quote Tomi T Ahonen :

" I am allowing 33% better performance. And if you have 4% of the global market for smartphones, you are a tiny meaningless shit. Sorry, didn't mean to say that. A tiny meaningless 'niche', you are not 'the third ecosystem' by any stretch of that definition. Sorry, Ballmer..."

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2012/12/android-won-wi...


Maybe this move will open up the WP store to allow webkit browsers, maybe MS will be forced to open up their platform.. Otherwise if MS were ever allowed to get WP into any sort of meaningful position, we would all suffer again, it would be a shitty locked down Microsoft World filled with stagnating MS shit while they milk everyone.



Microsoft bullying 20 years ago ?

Your right Microsoft were evil 20 years ago and now they are spotless, they are absolutely above board and act completely humanely, with complete humility and decency.. Give me a break the company doesnt have 1 shred of decency ...

I have stopped reading the commments on the Verge, on practically every major Web site, because of the blatent Astro turfing.


Proof Microsoft hasnt changed at all:

In 2003:
Microsoft bankrolled SCO to try and destroy Linux, luckily IBM and Novell stepped in and destroyed SCO. That case ended in 2007, 6 years ago...


In 2004:

http://battellemedia.com/archives/2005/09/ballmer_throws_a_chair_at...

Ballmer Throws a chair and threatens to f'ing destroy Google..


In 2007:
http://247wallst.com/2007/05/14/microsoft_marke/

Microsoft (MSFT) says that open source Linux violates 235 of its patents. And, the world’s largest software company wants royalties. Perhaps the whole thing will end up in court.

Note the year, 2007. Its attempt with SCO has failed, New battle plan : Linux violates 235 of its patents, and along with it starts the patent extortions.


In 2000-Present:

Get The FUD sorry Facts Campaign, on going campaign to try and prove Linux as bad and Microsoft as better mainly through manipulation and outright lying.

Have to add this because it is just pure poetic justice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwSM55bsCrM
http://blogs.computerworld.com/london_stock_exchange_to_abandon_fai...

After suffering extended downtime and unreliability[6][7] the LSE announced in 2009 that it was planning to switch to Linux in 2010.[8][9]
In October 2010, the London Stock Exchange announced that the new Linux based trading system named Millennium Exchange, had smashed the world record for trade speed, with 126 microsecond trading times.. (wikipedia)

Listen to that youtube clip its just so hilariously funny listening to the complete bull about how reliable and fast the MS .NET based platform was, the Linux based system comes into play and destroys it.


In 2010:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10458849-16/when-will-microsoft-s...

"Microsoft believes it has valid patent claims on Linux. Fine. Why not put its money where it's mouth is and sue Google to put those claims to the test?"


In 2011:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/barnes-noble-bets-on-nook-and-b...

Microsoft Go after Barnes & Noble, Barnes & Noble fight back, we find the patents are complete tripe:

http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2011111122291296

Then Microsoft settles with Barnes & Noble and claims it as a victory when they pay out 200 Million and B&N has not released a single MS based tablet and its still releasing Android based tablets:

http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/handheld/barnes-noble-deal-... --> great victory that cost them $200 Million


In 2012:

Incredibly Evil act: Secure Boot
Secure Boot --> One of the most Evil things to be done making it more difficult for newbies to try a different OS on hardware they own. Boot Sector Viruses are a strawman, name me a recent Windows Infection that attacked the Boot Sector, or required secure boot, absolute bull.

http://www.zdnet.com/2013-installing-linux-on-windows-8-pc-is-still...

http://www.zdnet.com/more-fun-with-windows-8-uefi-secure-boot-fedor... --> what a joke !!


Then we have the Marketing antics:

https://twitter.com/windowsphone/status/276140670505340928 --> #droidrage directly trying to paint android as malware infested.

http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-droidrage-twitter-campaign-goes-pai...

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/12/06/why-microsofts-mo... --> glad to see it went wrong.

http://www.businessinsider.com/microsofts-pr-boss-attacked-a-google...

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/technology/microsoft-battles-goog...


Then there is the direct attacks of Google:

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2012/11/28/microsoft-takes-aim-at-g...

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsofts-latest-google-compet...

Then the constant disgusting Astro Turfing, which is ruining nearly all commenting systems.


What about Nokia ? Its just about destroyed Nokia:

http://communities-dominate.blogs.com/brands/2013/01/second-picture...


Microsoft is one of the most selfish, abusive companies to ever infest the IT industry. It goes on and on and on..


The pusxxxs still havent gone after Google directly because they are full of it and if they took a Linux Vendor directly to Court such as RHEL they would have practically every old school Unix Vendor joining the court proceedings leaving Microsoft with a new asshole ripped the size of the Grand Canyon. It only takes Big Blue, IBM to step in ...


So to summarize I am very glad Google have done this and Long may they continue and I hope others join in to break up and destroy any monopoly Microsoft holds in any area, simple as that, once their monopoly is destroyed and they are forced to co-operate with others then maybe, maybe they will change their ways and just embrace interoperability without trying to extend it to be Microsoft only.

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