Linked by the_randymon on Tue 29th Jan 2013 01:23 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Samsung's recent Android 4.1.2 upgrade for the Galaxy Note 10.1 adds power and flexibility to the company's unique offering of Android multiwindowing features. With this update, the Galaxy Note 10.1 can run up to 16 multiwindow-enabled Android apps at once, Windows/Mac-like, on a single screen. Apps endowed with Samsung's multiwindow technology are usable in three viewing modes: full screen, dual view, and cascade view." There are already some complaining this represents a dangerous fork of Android. I thinks it's a step in the right direction.
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RE[9]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Wed 30th Jan 2013 17:03 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Laurence"
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But your argument is completely wrong anyway. Screen space is measured in cm, not in pixels. Lower ppi just means lower quality rendering.

Fair point. ;)

Just because, say, Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 have almost the same resolution doesn't mean you want to use the same layout on both: the screen size difference is too big.

I didn't say you do want to use the same interface at that screen size. Quite the opposite in fact; this one of the few arguments we've seen eye-to-eye on.

Way to completely miss the point.

I think we're both missing the point to be honest. But that's what happens when any discussion on here reaches this many replies.

Android is fairly good at showing apps at different resolutions. It does not automagically optimize apps layouts to different screen sizes.

I never said it did. In fact I repeatedly said it was developers that did that. Repeatedly

Bigger screen means that you can show more controls, add/improve sidebars, show more information in list elements etc. Android as a platform supports doing so, but app developers have to actually put an effort into thinking through and creating these layouts.

Which is what I said. Repeatedly.

What you forgot is that Google is also an app developer, not just a platform provider. My point is that Google didn't do much in their own apps, which if you haven't noticed they ship a whole bunch, to use the new space on 10".

I hadn't forgotten that Google is an app developer. I've just not used their apps at that high a resolution before and, until just now, nobody had mentioned that problem.

The only people whining in this thread are ones like yourself, who argue Samsung should not be allowed to modify Android. Everyone else is happy some progress is being made.

Actually that was never my point. I was saying that Samsung's implementation is crappy. If you have issue with the other peoples comments then take that up with the people who made them.

edit: that is unless you're on about my flippant remark I said at the start of the thread. "Sometimes I really do wish Samsung left the software development to Google."?
What I meant about that was that Samsung's additions are almost always crappy - so I wish they shipped stock ROMs. I'm not suggesting that Google should not allow Samsung to make modifications; I'm just despairing at how bad their modifications are.

I suspect you're reading a little too much into my comments ;)

And sure, Android has a long list of issues, and tiling is not even on top of that list. Having a 10" Nexus tablet was not top of the list either. So what? No one should be allowed to work on non-top priority items? What's your point? Never mind. I don't think you have one.

My point was quite clear when I said you were making a mountain out of a molehill. You're basically bitching about trivial things.

Stupid Google, why did they introduce multitasking in Android 1.x and multiuser support in 4.2, when no competing OSs had/have them? What a waste of time.

Multi-tasking on phones and PDA's existed long before Android and it's definitely a non-trivial feature.

You have more of a point about multi-user support though. Personally it's the biggest new feature I want to see on Android as many households share a tablet. But that's just my opinion.

What I was thinking more about when I cited Android's woes were:
* a clampdown on malware (I'm not even sure how Google would go about this, but there is a serious issue there)
* fixing their abysmal emulator in the SDK
* addressing the fragmentation issue (and I don't mean stopping companies like Samsung from adding Windowing - I mean companies shipping incompatible ROMs)

That's just off the top of my head and thankfully Google are addressing the last point. But I think the malware issue should be given priority above all else. But again, that's just my opinion. You might considering tiling of greater importance.

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