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Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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RE[10]: Comment by Laurence
by lucas_maximus on Mon 11th Mar 2013 10:40 UTC in reply to "RE[9]: Comment by Laurence"
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How ironic when it was your "I've work with people like you before" comment that first lowered the tone.

It depends how you choose to take it.

And this is where your arguments keep falling down. You accuse me of missing the point yet you're constantly jumping to conclusions.

Because they are the natural conclusion to jump to.

The canonical going their own way, MIR is going to be buggy as hell for the first few releases. Valve is going to start asking them what they are playing at.

There is enough issues trying to get games that worked on Windows 7 and Vista to work on 8 (Crysis just won't launch unless I really fiddle). How do you think it is going to play out on a different kernel, userspace etc? Even John Carmack has said they should probably just invest efforts into WINE instead.

Sorry it is not called jumping to conclusions it about reading between the lines.

There is your problem; you load a hands on distro to tinker with rather than an "it just works" distro. Then complain that Linux doesn't "just work" like Windows.

I don't expect it to work like Windows, However I can do this thing called looking at it from a different point of view.

Other people don't care how something works as long as it works.

No shit Sherlock. Do you have any idea how expensive it is to employ developers, designers, advertisers and so on? And you can't have commercial success without having a company running in the first bloody place.

But no, apparently in your world Linux should be commercially successful without anyone working full time on it and without any companies to back it. Apparently software becomes successful by magic.

Yes I do understand the expenses.

Which is why I said fragmentation is a problem, resources being split because of stupid arguments in the community. The currently small amount of resources aren't being focused.

Linus's mentality doesn't help either.

Apparently while we are name calling, that was too much of a stretch in your imagination.

...and your point is that there's only room for one UNIX-like OS on the desktop?

No that isn't what I meant. I am saying that is the only one at the moment which is getting it right.

A lot of prominent people have moved from MacOSX in the JS community and I have spoken to people at work who have done the same ... they don't have time to fiddle any longer and MacOSX has the tools they need and they are happy to pay the premium.

Now it seems you are jumping to conclusions ;-).

Edited 2013-03-11 10:54 UTC

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