Linked by Perry Helion on Fri 15th Mar 2013 18:20 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Ubuntu has come under a decent amount of flack over the past few months, particularly over their decision to use the 'Dash Search' to return results from Amazon by default in their most recent release.
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RE: Comment by Auzy
by hhas on Fri 15th Mar 2013 23:28 UTC in reply to "Comment by Auzy"
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Ubuntu often refuses to collaborate, and instead develops/forks projects which solve no problems. Projects like Bazaar, their Wayland alternative, Upstart and Unity were always unnecessary, and their developers should assist with the more-established projects, with the same goals.


As I mentioned in another comment, it's not Canonical's responsibility to do other projects' jobs for them. FOSS means the ability to use other people's work if you like it or write your own if you don't. Canonical's only obligation either way is to contribute back as licensing terms require.

For example, you mention Bazaar but neglect the fact that Git didn't appear until the same time Bazaar was publicly released. If Git had appeared several years earlier and was already well matured and easily usable by the great unwashed masses by the time the Bazaar foundations were laid then you'd have a point. But both systems originally evolved in parallel, with different motivations and requirements, so who could've said at the time which was the sure bet? Now that Git has come out the clear winner (in large part thanks to the third-party GitHub rather than Git itself), it'd be great if Canonical were to migrate to Git as time and resources allow, thereby eliminating a small amount of redundancy from the Linux ecosystem. But I don't imagine replacing a working SCM system is as pressing a priority for them as bringing new product to market before the window of opportunity completely closes, so don't hold your breath.

Much the same can be said of Upstart, which appeared more or less in parallel to systemd. It'd be great if Ubuntu were to switch to systemd now that the latter has matured a bit, as it is the stronger design. It'd be even better if all the other distros finally consolidated on systemd too, and the mess that is SysV init finally pensioned off for the good of all. Oh, and it'd be no bad thing either if the systemd folks could set out a clear line in the sand so that everyone knows exactly what its current and future responsibilities are and where all its boundaries lie, and it doesn't keep growing into a never-ending sprawl that eventually reads email too.

And Unity? Once again, Canonical and Gnome had diverging plans, so the break was sensible. I'm guessing none of the other desktop shells then available quite fit their needs either, so they did their own thing. Which, you know, they're allowed to do. And while Bazaar, Mir and Upstart are underground plumbing of interest to only a subset of geeks, Unity is the public face of Canonical and Ubuntu that every single one of their users will see, so from a marketing and presentation perspective alone it makes a great deal of sense for Canonical to take control of that. So I can't fault them for that decision (even if I can fault them for quite a few of the implementation details).

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