Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Apr 2013 20:43 UTC
Gnome "The team is proud to announce the release of MATE Desktop 1.6. This release is a giant step forward from the 1.4 release. In this release, we have replaced many deprecated packages and libraries with new technologies available in GLib. We have also added a lot of new features to MATE." Look at those screenshots. This is what GNOME is supposed to be: elegant, understated, to-the-point. I should try this.
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by Peter Besenbruch on Thu 4th Apr 2013 20:27 UTC in reply to "RE: Outdated"
Peter Besenbruch
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I too am sick of the obsession with Windows 95 being the pinnacle of user interfaces. (yes, Gnome2 and KDE are clones of the Windows95 interface paradigm).


First, we don't obsess over the Windows 95 interface as the pinnacle of design interface. We obsess over 98SE as the pinnacle. ;) It was Windows 98 that brought in "quick launchers."

Really is simple, If you look at the age of most Linux users, chances are their first operating system was Windows95. Microsoft reinforced this as all subsequent Windows versions carried on the Windows95 interface (except finally a break with Win7).


No, I started with a Radio Shack CoCo, and moved to the TRS-80. I have used Macs, Atari STs, Amigas, DOS, and Windows 3.1, prior to using Windows 9x. Toss in a few early Macs, and submitting batch jobs via JCL to a mainframe, and I think I have a bit of exposure to computer interfaces.

I would argue that the point and click interfaces have more in common than they have differences. The commonality can be traced to the research arm of Xerox, rather than to Microsoft. Pointing and clicking was a good response to the possibility of using a mouse to move a pointer on screen.

So, Windows95 is simply what most people have been trained, or perhaps accustomed to using...Originally I disliked Unity as it was buggy, unstable and incomplete, but I finally switched over from Gnome 3.6 and I'm fairly impressed with Unity (in Ubuntu 12.10), just wish Unity Tweak Tool was officially part of the control panel.


And you highlight some of what I don't like about Unity, lack of configuration. A similar lack drew me to KDE over Gnome, and later to XFCE.

Worse, though, is Unity's failure to distinguish launchers from already running programs. That's something even some of the basic window managers manage.

That failure to distinguish occurs in other areas, such as search engines. Here the problem involves the failure to distinguish local vs. Amazon searches. Canonical crossed an ethical line with that one.

As for Mate, and Gnome 2 before it, it looks nothing like Windows 95, although it uses the same point and click interface (so does Unity, for that matter). Gnome 2 was a sensible, working interface. Its categories made a certain amount of sense. Microsoft never did enforce categories in its Start Menu, consequently it was usually a mess.

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