Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Apr 2013 16:37 UTC
Windows Microsoft's Terry Myerson, corporate vice president of Windows Phone, talks about the competition. "With iPhone, I sense that it's running out of steam. With iOS, [Apple] just added a fifth row of icons. Android is... kind of a mess. Look at Samsung - there's clearly mutiny going on. The only OEM making money off of Android is Samsung." There's truth to all these statements, which makes it all the more surprising that Microsoft appears to be unable to properly capitalise on them. Sure, WP appears to be doing well in a few select markets, but by no means the kind of success Microsoft and (Nokia) was banking on. Microsoft will pull through. Nokia on the other hand...
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RE[6]: So what
by Nelson on Wed 17th Apr 2013 04:54 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: So what"
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A transitional OS? What a lame excuse just like the "not enough touch devices on the market" which we heard last quarter and before that it was "wait for holidays sales" and before that it was "wait for public release". Notice a pattern?

Waiting for public release is a given, so is holidays sales. This only lets you get a sense for what sales will look like in the aggregate.

Once you have that figure, you can start to reason why sales are good or bad. In this case, they came in below expectations to some, and the shortage and price of touch components is a legitimate issue cited by not just proponents of Windows 8, but by people actually involved in the supply chain.

Is it really that hard to admit that Microsoft might have made a mistake with Windows 8? So far they would have made more money by staying with Windows 7.

Its a little hard to take you seriously when the entire premise of your argument is that Windows 8 has been a disaster because of a missing start menu and full screen apps.

That's not the case. The PC segment overall shrunk and has been shrinking. Windows 7, Windows 8, or whatever, would face the same issue.

Windows 8 will sell by virtue of it being Windows. People don't go elsewhere. Chrome OS has less marketshare than Windows RT. I mean give me a fucking break, people don't go anywhere else for PCs.

Maybe it will take Windows 8 a little longer, or maybe it will end up being right in line historically, but it doesn't matter. Eventually, it will catch on.

Microsoft is also aggressively updating Windows with Blue. Windows on a yearly release schedule is as nimble as Microsoft's ever been. And guess what, they're doubling down on Metro overall.

The entire control panel has been moved to Metro, multitasking has been improved with various snap states, more of the old UI has been moved over to the Metro side of things.

You might still be delusional about the sea of change as it washes you over, but your beloved Windows 7 is going to become the new Windows XP for a bunch of people that are frozen in time like you.

So while you run your Encarta '97 on Windows 7 ten years from now when Windows has left you behind, you can find solace knowing that the KDE3 people and the GNOME2 people are right there with you.

This whole disaster has cost them billions and the result is a lot of angry customers. If they would have listened to the critics from the beginning and not forced Metro or taken away Aero this disaster would not have happened. So far the critics have been right, that's not debatable.

Yes it is. In fact, you haven't been right. You've been wrong. You have no data points to support the ridiculous notion that Windows 8 is not selling ridiculous amount of copies. Maybe they're slow by Windows 7 standards, but even that is gargantuan when you get the actual figure.

People are not picking up Windows 8 and putting it back on the shelf. People are just buying less PCs, and even less when they arent woo'd in by a touch screen.

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