Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 12:10 UTC
Windows The Verge confirms an earlier story by Mary Jo Foley. "Microsoft is preparing to revive the traditional Start button it killed with Windows 8. Sources familiar with Microsoft's plans have revealed to The Verge that Windows 8.1 will include the return of the Start button. We understand that the button will act as a method to simply access the Start Screen, and will not include the traditional Start Menu. The button is said to look near-identical to the existing Windows flag used in the Charm bar."
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RE[4]: Even if they do...
by Alfman on Mon 22nd Apr 2013 20:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Even if they do..."
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"No. It isn't so they say. That's exactly how it is, backed up by figures, charts, and thousand word posts."

They were obviously looking for data to show their case rather than looking at what customers wanted. Even if there was a shadow of a doubt in the past, in hindsight it's pretty obvious to everyone else that their research was naive, flawed, even deceptive in suggesting that consumers wanted windows 8 to work how it does.

"It didn't because they made up for OEM sales with pure hardware sales of a touch based tablet. In other words, Windows 8 helped save Microsoft from what would've been a disastrous quarter for them."

Microsoft could still haved shipped metro, the difference would be that consumers wouldn't be bounced into it every time they want to launch an app. By any reasonable account, it would be better to give users a choice. Are you suggesting that NOT giving users a choice saved MS from a more disastrous quarter?

"The Surface has made Microsoft $200 million dollars alone."

Ok, but this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the windows 8 desktop.

"Now this might seem like a bit of an aside, but my point in all this is that Microsoft is starting to transition and cater to a new type of user with Windows 8."

It's still not an excuse for removing the configuration options for the old type of user. Making metro optional wouldn't interfere with new users who wanted to use it.

"Maybe traditional Desktop users wont' like it as much, but there's evidence that its an increasingly shrinking segment -- with ultra portables like the Surface set to see an explosion of growth in that sector."

Your acting as though microsoft had no choice but to make windows 8 bounce clumsily between metro and the desktop, but that's silly. It would be so easy to fix, but they don't because they have an ulterior motive that overrides user feedback.

"If Microsoft can do something to grow Surface sales in a semi significant manner, they could start to seriously transition themselves into a Devices and Services company."

I agree that's their goal, but I still think it sucks that they are willing to throw the opinions of so many desktop users into the wind.

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