Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 3rd May 2013 18:27 UTC
Windows "Microsoft's phone chief hates to call the new Nokia Lumia 521 cheap, but the lower-priced smartphone launching in the United States is the company's boldest move yet to win mass market share from leaders Apple and Samsung. The world's largest software company has so far focused on putting its Windows Phone software into expensive, high-end devices - chiefly from Nokia and HTC. But the new model will go on sale at Walmart later this month at an unsubsidized price under $150, relatively cheap for a new phone running up-to-date software without a long-term contract." Windows Phone is racing to the bottom just as fast as Android - with the difference being that expensive Android devices do not fail to sell.
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Alfman
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2011-01-28

Neson,

"You're going to have to say exactly why the .NET Framework is a 'blantant rip off'. The only commonality between the two is that they're two languages which use a VM."

I said almost a blatant ripoff. Not just the managed code ideas but the class frameworks as well, coming from a Java background I remember being surprised how much of the class framework corresponded between the two, I suspect this was because MS used it's previous java experts to design the new .net platform. That's not a bad thing mind you, it's just a plausible explanation of how .net was created. I would love to hear the real stories from an insider, since as outsiders, we can only guess.


"The way the metadata and bytecode are structured in the CLR are very different from the JVM internally, and if you read some of the papers published around that time, you can see the rationale for the differences. The JVM wasn't even JIT compiled at the time when the CLR came out."

Maybe I'm missing something, but hotspot came out in 1999 and as far as I knew it was a JIT compiler. .net wasn't introduced until 2002.



"I think its more fair to say that the CLR was inspired by the JVM and other technologies at the time, but a rip off or a knock off clone? I think that is unfair, given how different they are architecturally."

I'm not arguing .net didn't have improvements, but it was often playing catch up (look at generics for example). I really don't care who did what first, and I'm so out of date with java that I couldn't give a meaningful comparison today anyways). All I can say is that I'm definitely happier with .net than I was with java/jvm. If you're more comfortable saying that .net is inspired by java rather than being a java clone, I can accept that too.

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