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Google "Wired has obtained a copy of a cease and desist letter sent by Google to Microsoft today, demanding Microsoft immediately remove the YouTube app from its Windows Phone Store and disable existing copies on consumers' devices by May 22. The YouTube app for Windows Phone - developed by Microsoft not Google - strips out ads and allows downloading, both violations of YouTube's terms of service." Incredibly petty. Just come up with a solution, you bunch of kids.
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RE[9]: Comment by Nelson
by silviucc on Thu 16th May 2013 11:01 UTC in reply to "RE[8]: Comment by Nelson"
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Right, so they are moving away from XMPP for the future of their chat based communication?


Where the hell did you get that from? They are not moving way from it, it was never in Hangouts to begin with.

People will be able to interact with it through XMPP but in a more limited way. Facebook does the same exact thing. They both want users to have the best experience by actually *using* their site. It's their technology, they can do whatever they wish.


Its obvious Google Chat is still there, but where are they investing in the future? Will it be taken out back and put out of its misery during the next spring cleaning? Maintenance mode isn't something I'd be glad over.


Oh, you know that for a fact huh? Sure you're not just interpreting facts to fit your argument?


And its interesting that you say I keep taking things out of context, only to provide no additional context yourself. I don't understand what was so illuminating about the additional sentence or two you quoted, because it did exactly nothing for your argument.


You presented XMPP as being gone. The text I quoted showed that 1) it was not gone from Gmail 2) it was never used in hangouts which had never been fully open as you implied.

Then you said they phased out Google Talk which they did not. The service is fine and dandy and will probably be there for a long time.

You say it won't/ We shall see. Until then, stop presenting fiction as truth.


"Google isn't killing the old thing as fast" isn't an excuse for them moving away from another standard, while at the same time, acting holier than thou on standards support at I/O. Its corporate double speak, and its amusing you can't see past it.


They can't move away from something that was not there in the first place.

Let me repeat that. "Hangouts never, ever, EVER" used XMPP. Now they're mobile applications that were used from two different services have been unified into one that uses the hangouts protocol. Clear?


I still don't understand how any of the above makes me a paid shill? Am I not allowed to hold an opinion that's different from the OSNews echo chamber? Maybe you, and dopes who think like you, take pride in being wrong (like they were on Samsung-Apple trial, Nokia dying any day now, Google/MS EAS spat, etc) but I try to see things the way they actually are.


You spin the facts not show them as they are. Makes your arguments flimsy. I take pride in being correctly informed about stuff and also for seeing past a professional bullshitter's bullshit.


If you look in this thread and stop making excuses for Google you'll see that I criticize both Microsoft and Google, as well as provide some context as to why Google may be acting the way they are (Quid pro quo comment in reply to another, in light of CEO comments from Google), so I certainly tell both sides of the story.


I do not make excuses for nobody. I talk about facts as I see them. You slap MS on the wrist and then turn and say "but Google kicks dogs and eats babies"


I can admit that Microsoft was wrong in breaking its terms, but I can at the same time provide context and show that Google is no saint either.


Then admit that MS is wrong in not allowing Google to interact with Outlook.com and grab your mail from there.

Admit that MS is wrong in not providing the ability for others, even if limited, to interact with their skype service. They've already modified the initial skype protocols to use their servers for better eavesdropping (skype was initially point to point and only used relays if it absolutely had to) why not open them up, if even partially?

Admit that they are wrong in not providing a way for outsiders to interact with their calendar tool.

Admit that they are full of shit when they call out Google for parsing email messages when their service does exactly the same damn thing.


They're cut out for brevity and you didn't really add much more. You showed that Google is phasing out XMPP support in favor of something proprietary in their Chat platform, which is in line with what I said.


I've shown no such thing. But I did show that the stuff you quoted was conveniently left out for the sake of you making a point, even if that point proved to be wrong/false.


You're speaking as if you'd shown that Google is not doing this, which isn't what you've done (though I'm sure you wish you couldve, given your comical disbelief when I first brought it up).


What I've shown is that they have not done what tyou said they did. They might do it, but they've not done it yet. THAT is fact, the rest is speculation.

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