Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 25th May 2013 00:45 UTC
Google "So in summary... Google has pulled the plug on support on a protocol they've helped popularize, after years of promising interoperability, for reasons that are dubious at best, and in a way that leaves people who don't jump to the new Hangouts app unable to talk to their contacts without any feedback that their IMs aren't getting through... And they've done that with no warning to anyone. I imagine there's a bunch of people out there wondering where some of their buddies have gone, or why their messages aren't getting responses, because this isn't documented anywhere." Google really messed this up. Such a dick move.
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RE[2]: Comment by marcp
by Valhalla on Sat 25th May 2013 16:53 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by marcp"
Valhalla
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But what's the point?

The alternatives are either just as "evil" or not nearly as good.


Exactly, and while I'm unhappy with many of Google's choices of late, I still benefit greatly not only from their services but also from their open source offerings, not to mention how so many of my favourite open source projects greatly benefit from efforts like Google summer of code.

Since I have a brain I was never under the impression that Google ran on pixie dust, they offer services in exchange for advertising and advertising data which is also what all the other 'free' services does, so the question boils down to what do I get in return.

The quality of Google's services is typically top notch, so I'm unlikely to consider switching based upon technical reasons, the privacy 'issue' is just BS, all the 'players' offering 'free' services gathers your personal habits when using these services and sells that data to advertisers.

It's all the same and unlike the case with government requests, this advertising data can't be used to identify you as an idividual.

Looking past the services, do they offer anything else?

As an open source proponent I find Google offers a great deal here, they fund Google summer of code, they fund development of Linux, FreeBSD, GCC, Clang/LLVM, Webm (VP8/VP9), Firefox, Chromium, Android, Blink, etc.

As such I wouldn't use Bing even if it was as good as Google search.

I get nothing back from Microsoft beyond the service itself, instead any advertising dollar I put in Microsoft's pocket will most likely be used against my open source interests as Microsoft will use that money to further their proprietary vendor lock-in strategy (to which open source is a long time threat).

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