Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Aug 2013 11:01 UTC

President Barack Obama hosted Apple CEO Tim Cook, AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson, Google computer scientist Vint Cerf and other tech executives and civil liberties leaders on Thursday for a closed-door meeting about government surveillance, sources tell POLITICO.

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More overblown nonsense
by abraxas on Fri 9th Aug 2013 20:36 UTC
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Corporations are directly involved in this conversation because they are the ones with the data. They HAVE to be a part of the discussion. Not only that, I guarantee that they are more likely to be on the side of the average citizen on this subject. They don't want their reputations muddied by a connection to ubiquitous government surveillance. It's bad for business.

The second point I want to make is that this WHOLE THING is overblown. Either I haven't gotten a hold of the right kool-aid or I actually missed some trustworthy reporting somewhere. From what I have gathered this is centered around the ability of the government to mine data from records like phone calls, etc to make connections in terrorism cases. This has been in the news for 6+ years now. I have seen nothing other than hyperbole, exaggeration , and sensationalism supporting the idea that the government is actually READING or LISTENING to your conversations. Maybe I'm wrong but every article I have read that makes this claim does so on the thinnest of ice, with virtually 0 real evidence.

With all of that said I think we should all be having the discussion about what we think is necessary and allowable in a free society in the name of safety. Personally I'm more worried about policies like stop and frisk that ARE actually affecting people directly today and every day.

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