Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Sep 2013 23:33 UTC

Speaking at Microsoft's financial analysts meeting today, CEO Steve Ballmer was refreshingly realistic about the company's struggles in smartphones and tablets. "Mobile devices. We have almost no share."

Right. Now that Ballmer himself admits it, can we please settle the discussion? Windows Phone has been a failure up until now.

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RE[8]: Doesn't matter
by japh on Sun 22nd Sep 2013 17:25 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Doesn't matter"
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Google is also doing the same thing. They are not making much at all giving away Android..

No, I imagine giving away something doesn't generate much direct income. But they do make a lot of money on mobile users. Android is not a loss leader.

Nelson thought I should congratulate Microsoft on being a loss... third place?

Fact is that Microsoft is pretty much fighting to stay relevant and are prepared to spend enormous amounts of money on that. And in doing so, they aren't really doing the consumers any favors. Competition works very poorly when one player doesn't need to care about a working business model.

When Microsoft can show that they're actually have a sustainable niche that didn't come from killing off competitors with long-running loss projects, then we can start talking about milestones.

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