Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Sep 2013 23:33 UTC

Speaking at Microsoft's financial analysts meeting today, CEO Steve Ballmer was refreshingly realistic about the company's struggles in smartphones and tablets. "Mobile devices. We have almost no share."

Right. Now that Ballmer himself admits it, can we please settle the discussion? Windows Phone has been a failure up until now.

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Really wonder ..
by acobar on Sun 22nd Sep 2013 19:57 UTC
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how much of this "adoption rate growth" of Nokia/MS smartphones are related to old Nokia phones updates. From my limited experience (actually anecdotal as I only know 4 beings having a MS driven phone), all of them share the same previously cited path.

Nokia still has a brand recognition, and telco relation with big comm companies on all these areas Nelson reported and there are lots of people that like Nokia and that also take a long time to replace their phones.

My bet is that if it was not for Nokia, MS "Metro" phones could be way, way worse on sales. If you look for numbers behind Nokia sales on regions Nelson posted, you will see the strong correlation they carry.

What I am saying is: Nokia would grow on smartphone market with probably same numbers, if not bigger, even if they picked Android as the OS, because of their brand and business links, what is the same as saying that there was no palpable advantage for Nokia on picking MS OS from the point-of-view of their regular customers (this is not the same as saying that they had no advantages when getting MS money, obviously).

It is a futile argument, anyway, history has no option to be rebuild.

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