Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 24th Sep 2013 22:45 UTC, submitted by ddc_
3D News, GL, DirectX

Few companies have been the target of as much criticism in the Linux community as Nvidia. Linus Torvalds himself last year called Nvidia the "single worst company" Linux developers have ever worked with, giving the company his middle finger in a public talk.

Nvidia is now trying to get on Linux developers' good side. Yesterday, Nvidia's Andy Ritger e-mailed developers of Nouveau, an open source driver for Nvidia cards that is built by reverse engineering Nvidia's proprietary drivers. Ritger wrote that "NVIDIA is releasing public documentation on certain aspects of our GPUs, with the intent to address areas that impact the out-of-the-box usability of NVIDIA GPUs with Nouveau. We intend to provide more documentation over time, and guidance in additional areas as we are able."

It wouldn't surprise me if this is related to the SteamOS announcement.

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by lemur2 on Wed 25th Sep 2013 10:24 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: ..."
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To be fair to them that statement WAS made 3 years ago when Wayland really wasn't going to be big for a while. We (the people that knew about and supported wayland) knew this and to have a company for whom Linux support has traditionally been a lesser concern, because not many linux enthusiasts bought Nvidia, this wasn't as unreasonable as some made it out to be. While we don't have a current statement from them right now one can assume that they are working on one because most of the distro's and environments are looking at changing within a year


To be fair, it wasn't just the statement from nVidia that they wouldn't support Wayland that was unacceptable.

This is what is unacceptable: Hence, in order to change the Linux graphics stack, Linux developers need OEMs to implement equivalent/sympathetic changes within their proprietary drivers. This puts the OEMs in a position to dictate the progress, or lack thereof, of the Linux graphics stack.

The example of Wayland is just one example. What is unacceptable to Linux developers is not being in control of Linux development, and having to rely on goodwill from OEMs to support whatever they wanted to support.

That was, and still is, what was, and remains, unacceptable.

After all, Linux kernel driver developers don't want nVidia's code, all they want are device programming specifications, such as these:

http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/

Given device programming specifications (which do not reveal any IP), Linux kernel developers can then write and maintain their own driver code. Where is the harm to nVidia?

Edited 2013-09-25 10:30 UTC

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