Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 29th Oct 2013 15:04 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Nokia has just announced its Q3 2013 financial results, revealing an operating profit of EUR118 million ($162 million) from EUR 5.66 billion ($7.8 billion) revenue. That's up massively year over year, but nonetheless represents another quarter of middling results. The report is the first since Microsoft agreed to purchase Nokia's phone business, and that division - Devices and Services - performed as expected, posting a small loss of EUR 86 million ($118 million).

So, Microsoft is buying the part of Nokia that is losing money, while the parts that make money remain in Finland. Seems like a good deal for Nokia-proper. In the meantime, Microsoft will be saddled with a devices division that is still losing money, and whose increase in sales consists largely of low-end, low-margin devices (like the 520). Interesting - especially since Windows Phone was supposed to prevent Nokia participating in a race to the bottom. I'm sure Microsoft's super-successful Surface division welcomes Nokia's devices division.

The cold truth: even more than 2.5 years after announcing the switch to Windows Phone, Nokia's Lumia range still cannot make up for drop in sales of Symbian devices and feature phones. This is roughly the same timeframe in which Samsung rose to the top. With Android.

Read into that what you will.

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by tylerdurden on Wed 30th Oct 2013 18:03 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
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I think Nokia bottomed out a year ago, considering since then they've posted shipment increases every quarter.

LOL, did you just provide an example for my point?

Even with those increases, Nokia's current WP line moved only 60% as many units this year as Symbian was selling 3 years ago. Heck,WP is selling as many units for Nokia now as Symbian did in 07. Worse still, Nokia's shipment numbers in the smartphone space have remained pretty much flat during the past 3 years. So basically Nokia experienced a "lost" half a decade... in the market segment which has experienced the highest growth rate during that same time period. And that is even after 3 years of full effort and massive cash inputs.

Suddenly, when actual context is provided, those selective "growth" numbers you croon about don't look that impressive.

But its a fact free zone when the Always Wrong Club is involved.

... but enough about yourself.

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