Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Nov 2013 22:50 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

I bought a Droid 4 twenty-one months ago.

As a devout user of physical QWERTY keyboards, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed.

Great article by Sean Hollister on the demise of the QWERTY slider. In the article, Hollister speaks with Doug Kaufman, manager of handset strategy for Sprint, and his revelations are intriguing - it's not so much that people do not want hardware keyboards; it's that people want iconic, flagship phones - like the S4, like the 5S - with huge marketing pushes. Since nobody is pushing a flagship QWERTY slider... Nobody buys them. However, when you ask consumers what they want, physical keyboards are very, very popular.

And so, Kaufman admits: if there was an HTC One or Galaxy S4, a top-of-the-line phone, but with a keyboard - it would sell.

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by WereCatf on Sun 17th Nov 2013 09:38 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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Eh, so you don't want to look at the screen when typing (meaning you don't see the screen) and complain a virtual keyboard takes up too much of the screen (you'd need to look and see more than when typing blind)?


For one, when typing on a virtual keyboard you have to pay a lot attention to where you place your fingers because there just is no tactile feedback whatsoever, making it cumbersome. When typing on a H/W keyboard I don't need to pay so much attention to my fingers, meaning that I can devote more of it towards what I'm actually writing.

But like the article has shown I also think they're just not many of you.


I don't know, nor do I claim to know. What I do know, however, is that manufacturers keep on pushing for ever thinner phones and that means they'll scrap H/W keyboards for thinness -- I have no way of accessing their marketing data to know whether it's the people themselves asking for such trade-off or whether it's just the CEOs themselves who believe that thinness is the ultimate end-all-be-all measure of the quality of a phone.

Yes, a virtual keyboard takes up screen estate, but what are you writing that takes so many words?


Depends. I often write long SMS-messages, for example, or I may wish to respond quickly to a forum posting somewhere, or I may need to write up something for later use.

The size and the weight of the physical keyboard remain even when not typing while the virtual one disappears.


Well, I'm not made of spaghetti, I can handle 10 grams more weight.

A physical keyboard adds to the cost, size weight, fragility and what does it add? An extra keyboard, you'd also have the virtual one.


It'd add, you know, a physical keyboard. I do not give a flying f--k about a whopping centimeter or even two more in bulkiness or 10 grams in weight.

Most people don't type that much. If you do wouldn't something else than a phone be more convenient? A tablet with a keyboard beats a phone with a physical keyboard.


No. I carry a phone with me at all times, and it's a lot smaller than a tablet. I don't want to carry both around with me unless I have a specific need and considering the fact that a phone already caters to 99% of my mobile needs I would really just be carrying a tablet along with me for no good reason. Also it'd be just ridiculous to whip out the tablet and a mobile keyboard and settle down somewhere every time I want to write a message.

I just think number of people && typing a lot on a mobile phone == very small number.


You've clearly never met an average teenager.

There are Bluetooth keyboards and probably very small ones too.


How do you hold both a phone and the keyboard and still manage to type with it? That's the obvious reason for why you ain't seeing them anywhere.

Edited 2013-11-17 09:42 UTC

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