Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 4th Dec 2013 18:06 UTC

"Joining the Linux Foundation is one of many ways Valve is investing in the advancement of Linux gaming," Mike Sartain, a key member of the Linux team at Valve said. "Through these efforts we hope to contribute tools for developers building new experiences on Linux, compel hardware manufacturers to prioritize support for Linux, and ultimately deliver an elegant and open platform for Linux users."

Mark my words: Valve will do for Linux gaming what Android did for Linux mobile. Much crow will be eaten by naysayers in a few years.

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Oiaohm; you're trying your hardest to pretend that the sun shines out of open source developers butts - carefully choosing facts that suit your argument (and then stretching them as far as you think you can) and ignoring everything else. I don't know if you're stupid or dishonest, but I don't really care enough to find out which.

Oiaohm; my video cards are only about 5 years old (Radeon HD 4770, released in 2008). Initially the best I could get was unstable 2D (screen flickering black when scrolling, mouse pointer turning to trash occasionally, random crashes). Support improved over time and after 2 years video finally worked properly (including 3D acceleration, etc). Then I had about 6 months of drivers that actually worked before Xorg assholes broke it again. For comparison, there's a "Windows Vista" machine sitting next to it that is even older; where updating the video driver is a few mouse clicks with no chance of "update breakage" (and not a single bug or glitch from the start). It doesn't matter who you blame, it's not good enough.

Oiaohm; I don't care if most of the problems were bugs in X11 and not "Xorg policy". I don't care if it was AMD/ATI's fault that smaller OSs like FreeBSD and Solaris weren't able to support DRI1/DRI2/DRI3 quickly enough and therefore made it impractical for AMD/ATI to change their "intended for many OSs" driver over to something only Linux supported.

Oiaohm; I also don't care if everything has improved a lot recently or if it might work if I upgraded to recent X11 and open source ATI driver today. The fact is that after years of pain there's no way in hell I'm willing to do anything that might upset the "carefully balanced pile of turds" I've got and risk ending up knee deep in shit again.

Oiaohm; don't get me wrong - I'm not saying that all of Linux is bad (it's rock solid for most things), and I'm not considering using any other OS for servers or as a programming environment; however, I'd still rather waste $$$ on a stupid locked down X-Box (that we all know will be useless/obsolete junk in 4 years) than to attempt to get "free" software working for 3D gaming.

Also note, Oiaohm, that I've tried to put your name at least once in every paragraph in the hope that I sound like a patronising jerk. It seems to be fashionable..

- Brendan

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