Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 18th Dec 2013 20:47 UTC
Apple

Apple today announced the all-new Mac Pro will be available to order starting Thursday, December 19. Redesigned from the inside out, the all-new Mac Pro features the latest Intel Xeon processors, dual workstation-class GPUs, PCIe-based flash storage and ultra-fast ECC memory.

This thing is so damn awesome. I don't need it, but I still want one.

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RE[7]: Comment by v_bobok
by fmaxwell on Fri 20th Dec 2013 11:50 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by v_bobok"
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"I guess you're going to tell me that the Caedium Professional computational fluid dynamics (CFD) software, with has a $750/month license fee and runs on the Mac Pro, isn't used by professionals?

... you say that like there isn't a windows version... that costs half that due to the larger audience...
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No, just refuting your claim that no one would use a Mac Pro for that kind of work.

"And you think that AutoCAD, which recommends a Mac Pro 5,1 or later, is a hobbyist product?

Funny that, since the PC recommended is a 3ghz P4 and 4 gigs of RAM... and it originated on PC...
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I quoted "recommended" for the Mac and I believe you quoted "minimum" for the PC.

"ArchiCAD “will also benefit from the advanced OpenGL technologies that the powerful twin 4K graphics cards provide, allowing 3D models within ArchiCAD 17 to just fly.”

As opposed to any other 4k capable graphics rig of the past two years...
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He's not just talking about resolution -- he's also talking about speed. And a 12 core Mac Pro is powerful-fast system.

Oddly that's often more of a driver issue. You bench games on workstation cards the numbers are flipped

The Mac Pro is aimed at the workstation market, so that's why it has the workstation GPUs. And companies are very wary of violating licensing terms by trying to hack files to install unlicensed drivers with consumer video cards.

It really gets down to a perspective on cost. Where I work, we have RF cables that cost more than a new Mac Pro does. They'd be nuts to try to pinch pennies on a computer that an engineer would be using for at least a couple of years. You don't want someone idled because a software upgrade leaves their gamer-card+workstation-driver system unable to run some business-critical package.

Though I get where you are coming from with that -- what with standard cases moving the PSU (and it's intake fan) to the bottom. Getting it up off the floor a foot or more can be the difference between needing to blow it out once a year, and going in there after three months to pull out tribble-sized dust bunnies.

Thank you. That was a polite response and I really appreciate it. I've reached the point where I hesitate to even discuss computers online because it so often turns into personal attacks. Glad we could both dial it back from there.

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