Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 13th Jan 2014 10:06 UTC

Paul Thurrott on the next version of Windows and the future of the platform.

In some ways, the most interesting thing about Threshold is how it recasts Windows 8 as the next Vista. It's an acknowledgment that what came before didn't work, and didn't resonate with customers. And though Microsoft will always be able to claim that Windows 9 wouldn't have been possible without the important foundational work they had done first with Windows 8 - just as was the case with Windows 7 and Windows Vista - there's no way to sugarcoat this. Windows 8 has set back Microsoft, and Windows, by years, and possibly for good.

With even Paul Thurrott claiming Windows is in trouble, it becomes virtually impossible to deny it is so.

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RE[8]: Microsoft in transition
by davidiwharper on Tue 14th Jan 2014 06:43 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Microsoft in transition"
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Yes it was still pretty bad, even with just the plain OS, the basic Internet apps (Flash, Adobe Reader etc.) and Office 2007. The security model was awful (UAC had only one setting - on for everything), I/O performance in Windows Explorer was atrocious, a lot of simple stuff was broken (e.g. I had to create a registry patch to fix handling of MSP files, Microsoft's own patch medium of choice) and it was soooo sloooooow even on top end hardware. I bought what was then a top of the line Quad Core Q6600 in late 2007, and it crawled along with Vista; when Windows 7 was released two years later - remember, 7 has the same core as Vista and was 99.99% compatible with Vista drivers and applications - it flew along nicely for the rest of its lifespan.

I think if Vista had come out in a polished Win7-like state, with the speed of 7 and the application compatibility of 7 [especially the built in XP Mode], while it would certainly have had teething troubles due to driver issues and so forth, there wouldn't have been the continuing furore that accompanied the actual Vista product. A big part of the ongoing hatred for Vista was due to the lack of a response from Microsoft. The major problems with Vista (speed, poor application compatibility) are still present today if you happen across some poor bastard running it on their PC - Microsoft bundled all of the improvements into Win7 instead of actually fixing Vista.

Someone mentioned the netbook wave that erupted around the time Vista came out. If Win7 had been around instead of Vista, then XP wouldn't have been needed for netbooks. (XP is pretty horrible on netbooks FWIW while 7 is more tolerable.) That alone would have changed quite a bit of the narrative.

Edited 2014-01-14 06:46 UTC

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