Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 22nd May 2014 18:21 UTC, submitted by Shane
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I was at the OpenStack Summit this week. The overwhelming majority of OpenStack deployments are Linux-based, yet the most popular laptop vendor (by a long way) at the conference was Apple. People are writing code with the intention of deploying it on Linux, but they're doing so under an entirely different OS.

But what's really interesting is the tools they're using to do so. When I looked over people's shoulders, I saw terminals and a web browser. They're not using Macs because their development tools require them, they're using Macs because of what else they get - an aesthetically pleasing OS, iTunes and what's easily the best trackpad hardware/driver combination on the market. These are people who work on the same laptop that they use at home. They'll use it when they're commuting, either for playing videos or for getting a head start so they can leave early. They use an Apple because they don't want to use different hardware for work and pleasure.

Apple's laptops are still the best PCs money can buy at the moment (despite their horribly outdated displays). It's no wonder Linux developers, too, favour them.

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RE: The OSX CLI is good?
by galvanash on Fri 23rd May 2014 04:02 UTC in reply to "The OSX CLI is good?"
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When did that happen? (I run a MacBook pro 2011 as my primary laptop machine.) Frankly, I can't agree with people talking about the OSX command line being so great. It has the worst dependancy hell I've ever seen compared to Debian, Ubuntu or even Gentoo Linux. Packages always broken, out of date, hard to upgrade. Conflicts between BSD and GNU libraries. Really basic stuff that should have been fixed years ago. Try installing glib, or gtk onto a MacBook. It's possible, but it's actually a pain to do. Fink, macports, etc, all tried, packages horribly out of date, or just missing.

I would say it depends on what your doing.

If you are not a developer, or your interest lies in running X-based software, while OSX can work it doesn't work terribly well...

If you are and C/C++ developer who doesn't want to use xcode, and you are primarily building for other platforms, OSX will probably suck hard.

On the other hand if you are doing development primarily in interpreted languages (Ruby, Python, Node.js, Java, etc.), OSX is actually pretty solid and very well supported (orders of magnitude better than Windows)

As far as the quality of the CLI itself, its just regular old bash. There is some weirdness due to OSX differences from other Unix, but for the most part I find it behaves pretty much identically to Linux. I run Total Terminal so I have the CLI on a hotkey and it window-shades down form the menubar - I find it extremely comfortable to use this way (especially in OSX because of the way window management works).

ps. Most everyone I know gave up on fink and macports long ago. Check out homebrew - for the most part it just works.

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