Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 1st Jul 2014 12:17 UTC

There's a lot of information coming out about the future versions of Windows - and it's looking like Microsoft is listening to its users. First and foremost, it seems like the Metro interface will be disabled completely when Windows runs on traditional laptops and desktops; however, Metro applications will still run in windows on the desktop.

The Desktop/laptop SKU of Threshold will include, as previously rumored, the Mini-Start menu - a new version of the traditional Microsoft Start menu, an early concept of which Microsoft showed off at the company's Build developers conference in April. It also will include the ability to run Metro-Style/Windows Store apps in windows on the Desktop. Will it turn off completely the Metro-Style Start screen with its live-tile interface, as Neowin is reporting, and make the tiled Start Menu a toggleable option from the Mini Start menu? I'm not sure, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Meanwhile, convertible devices will work pretty much like Windows 8.x does today, switching between the two modes. Microsoft will also do the inevitable: merge its phone and tablet operating system into one product.

The combined Phone/Tablet SKU of Threshold won't have a Desktop environment at all, but still will support apps running side by side, my sources are reconfirming. This "Threshold Mobile" SKU will work on ARM-based Windows Phones (not just Lumias), ARM-based Windows tablets and, I believe, Intel-Atom-based tablets.

These are all looking like some very decent changes, and something they should have done from the get-go. In fact - they should have never tried to shove Metro down desktop user's throats to begin with. They should have moved Windows Phone over to NT (which they did anyway), and scale that up to tablets.

I am, though, quite interested in what the Metro-on-desktop apologists are going to say now. For entertainment value, of course!

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What you know is good
by Yamin on Wed 2nd Jul 2014 16:17 UTC
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The reality for most people is that Windows is pretty good.

I often watch my own behavior. I still use Firefox.
Many people have moved onto chrome. But I stick with firefox. It's not out of some odd form of loyalty. It's really a few things
1. My data is on there with sync
2. I like LiveBookmarks (RSS feeds as bookmarks)
3. Bookmark toolbar
4. My current stack of addons/plugins/settings
5. My firefox knowledge base of tricks and settings...

Now, even if another browser implemented all these. Or even if they met one of my needs 'better', I'll still stick with firefox because it is good enough. A browser would have to vastly exceed what firefox is doing for me to switch to it.

The same is true of Windows. Every version of windows has issues and things I have problems with. Yet, none have made me change. Heck, for all the issues with Windows 8, it was nothing start8 and some reg fixes wouldn't solve. Heck, I had to do a fair bit to get my wireless working. For some reason the wrong driver gets installed, so only wirelessG works. And I had to work around some legacy VPN softrware.

I know that if I switched full time to Ubunutu or OSX, I'd probably spend just as much time learning, fixing things I don't like, finding alternatives...

And in the end, Windows works for me. I can run eclipse, dev env, office, games, web browser, all my random apps... and fireup an ubuntu vm if I feel like it.

And hey, now it looks like they're going to fix the windows8 desktop experience, so I don't need to install start8. All the better.

Sure, it costs me money, probably $25/year amortized. But that's pretty cheap considering I waste money on coffee or random snacks or watching movies...

Edited 2014-07-02 16:18 UTC

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