Linked by jessesmith on Wed 5th Nov 2014 10:39 UTC
Linux Over the past year I've been reading a lot of opinions on the new init technology, systemd. Some people think systemd is wonderful, the bee's knees. Others claim that systemd is broken by design. Some see systemd as a unifying force, a way to unite the majority of the Linux distributions. Others see systemd as a growing blob that is slowly becoming an overly large portion of the operating system. One thing that has surprised me a little is just how much people care about systemd, whether their opinion of the technology is good or bad. People in favour faithfully (and sometimes falsely) make wonderful claims about what systemd is and what it can supposedly do. Opponents claim systemd will divide the Linux community and drive many technical users to other operating systems. There is a lot of hype and surprisingly few people presenting facts.
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mustafa
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2014-11-08

1) systemd is an umbrella of multiple software components, this differs from "systemd the init system", most software depend on some components like "logind the login manager", if anybody doesn't want to use systemd-logind he just needs to write something that implements its functionality (the dbus apis for login manager), software depends on logind because nobody wrote a counterpart, only systemd-logind implements these apis, systemd sub-modules offers functionality that nobody else is offering.

2) "Debian holds out for tried and true technology, for mature software, and systemd isn't there yet"
RHEL 7 and SUSE 12 use systemd, I think its mature enough, they don't use expermental software.

3) Debian users can install and use another init system, this proposal wants to oblige package maintainers to not package anything that depends on a systemd component, or write the missing components themselves if it was not provided by upstream. So if the upstream software depends on logind, the maintainer must patch it to support another (non-existent at the moment) login manager (don't tell me about ConsoleKit, it is deprecated).

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