Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 9th Dec 2016 20:56 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Basically: not having a headphone jack might not be enough to deter sales of a phone, but it's still really annoying and requires users to spend additional money to reclaim very basic functionality from their devices. And most of that money flows back to the device vendor, effectively increasing the price of the phone. We've taken something simple and universal, and turned it into something complex and proprietary, for no obvious benefits. It's a bad trade-off. It's... user-hostile and stupid. There's just no getting around it.

There's no tangible benefit to ditching the universal 3.5mm jack - whether Apple does it, or Samsung does it, or anyone else does it.

We're months and months into this discussion now, and to this day, nobody - not Apple, not Samsung, not John Gruber, not any commenters anywhere - has given me a real, valid, tangible reason why removing the 3.5mm jack is a good idea. Lightning audio is stupid because only the iPhone/iPad support it (not even Macs come with Lightning ports), and wireless audio is garbage - something even Apple is only now finding out. Those wireless AirPods Apple unveiled to much fanfare? They have been delayed and delayed, and are actually still unavailable, because Bluetooh audio is complete and utter garbage.

It almost feels like removing the 3.5mm jack was a sociological science experiment to determine just how far people were willing to go to defend and rationalise a deeply dumb idea.

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RE: I disagree
by Earl C Pottinger on Sat 10th Dec 2016 06:15 UTC in reply to "I disagree"
Earl C Pottinger
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When I took a look at the Bluetooth I was surprised to see that there was enough bandwidth to support full uncompressed stereo but that Bluetooth insisted in breaking communication into a number of channels when talking to devices.

There is not enough bandwidth in a channel to support uncompressed audio so as far as I can tell all Bluetooth ear-pieces and head-phones are receiving compressed audio.

Does anyone know of any devices that use multiple channels at the same time to receive the full uncompressed stereo sound for a music player?

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