Linked by Drumhellar on Tue 31st Jan 2017 00:33 UTC
Oracle and SUN

After the recent removal of Solaris 12 from the Solaris road map inspired much speculation on the future of Solaris, Oracle has finally published a blog post detailing the cause of the removal, and the future of Solaris

Oracle Solaris is moving to a continuous delivery model using more frequent updates to deliver the latest features faster, while fully preserving customer and ISV qualification investment in the vast array of ISV applications available on Oracle Solaris 11 today. New features and functionality will be delivered in Oracle Solaris through dot releases instead of more disruptive major releases, consistent with trends seen throughout the industry.

In addition, support for current versions of Solaris 11 has been extended to beyond 2030. The actual updated roadmap is light on details, though, but it does appear that Solaris at least isn't dead just yet.

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Salty SunOS Dog Views from the Inside
by aliver on Thu 2nd Feb 2017 04:27 UTC
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Oracle is laying off devs. I've been supporting SunOS or Solaris since 1993 as a professional, continuously (and still do). I worked as a C dev as well on Solaris and SunOS.

* ZFS, IPS, Zones & LDOMs, are cool, but too many embrace XML and displace plain text which is not a good idea and not the Unix way. You get dozens of great tools to work with text (sed, awk, etc..) and you want to cripple yourself with XML because "it's structured" ? That's a silly value system and proof of "doomed to re-implement poorly" playing out. Text is for humans, XML is for DNA sequencers.

* Dtrace == A lot of hype but still a fairly useful tool. Just calm down about it. Jesus, I'm tired of hearing about it. Other platforms have their own instrumentation & profiling solutions and you know what? Some of them rock, too, and are a bit less obtuse.

* Fishworks project (storage stuff based on ZFS) had/has some good ideas, but the implementation and launch was rocky as a mofo. I wouldn't touch
that product ZFS or not. Lots of pissed customers on that front.

* 'ipadm' & 'dladm' == Broken buggy blaspheming garbage that would still be awful even if they managed to work properly. Give me my ####ing config files back. They should have sub-contracted Lennart Pottering to write that steaming pile of frustrating breakage. He's got more experience than anyone I know at fixing unbroken things by way of god-awful ideas expressed in code. Avoid Solaris 11 if you like your network to pass traffic after trying basically any change on your interfaces.

* If I could combine Solaris 8 with ZFS, IPS, Dtrace, Zones/LDOMS, and remove SDS, it'd be about as good as you could get for Solaris, IMO.

* SMF == Absolutely horrible binary opaque blasphemy that works and feels like a hangover (SQLlite databases hold your configs). XML, etc.. It was an unbelievable step backwards. It literally turned me against Solaris and drove me fully into the arms of BSD (no regrets, either). It's not that I don't know SMF or understand it: it's that I hate it eyes wide open. It's not
the bugs or even the XML, it's the *design* and the style. It's mental nails on a chalkboard.

* I support Solaris 2.6 through 11. Still. Today. This very second I'm on a hot pager and someone could call me to solve their Solaris problems. I do it two or three times a week, at least. My opinion is that Solaris 11.Next is for suckers who drank two much corporate kool-aid. Get your yourself a 3rd party support contract for Solaris 10 or 8 from an American vendor who speaks clear English, patch to the hilt, version lock the system behind a firewall & NIDS and hold out until Armageddon with middle fingers facing outward. That is, if you can't just move your application to FreeBSD and do yourself a giant favor.

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