Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Apr 2017 17:28 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu

Mark Shuttleworth, dropping a bombshell on a boring Wednesday:

We are wrapping up an excellent quarter and an excellent year for the company, with performance in many teams and products that we can be proud of. As we head into the new fiscal year, it's appropriate to reassess each of our initiatives. I'm writing to let you know that we will end our investment in Unity8, the phone and convergence shell. We will shift our default Ubuntu desktop back to GNOME for Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.


I took the view that, if convergence was the future and we could deliver it as free software, that would be widely appreciated both in the free software community and in the technology industry, where there is substantial frustration with the existing, closed, alternatives available to manufacturers. I was wrong on both counts. In the community, our efforts were seen fragmentation not innovation. And industry has not rallied to the possibility, instead taking a 'better the devil you know' approach to those form factors, or investing in home-grown platforms. What the Unity8 team has delivered so far is beautiful, usable and solid, but I respect that markets, and community, ultimately decide which products grow and which disappear.

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RE[3]: Finally
by DeadFishMan on Thu 6th Apr 2017 21:17 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
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You do realize that Upstart precedes and was actually one of the reasons behind systemd creation, don't you?

I'm not an Ubuntu user (it is openSUSE all the way for me) but I never understood all the hate toward them, even by Debian people when Debian was not on anyone radar to be the suggested choice for newbies.

It always smelled like a kind of prejudice and envy because, for some time, Ubuntu were the only distribution really biased toward making Linux easy for newcomers.

All of us that love Linux systems should recognize that the Ubuntu guys not only identified problems at hand but also worked hard to fix them, even if they did not got it right sometimes.

Have a pint Ubuntu guys, best wishes from an openSUSE user.

Ah, that's easy! Canonical has always had a weird attitude towards the rest of the Linux ecosystem including its parent distro Debian, a strong NIH syndrome which leads to their strong unwillingness to cooperate at any level with others, proposing stupid things like CLAs that benefits only one side, pushing unwanted "features" such as Mir, Unity, Upstart, libindicator, etc. even when the alternatives are tried and tested in the field and thus clearly better among a few other things. They strive their best to distance themselves from the "Linux brand" even though that's where they made their fortune on.

Its users also kind of deserve some of the blame due to their naivety to the point of crediting Ubuntu and Canonical for good stuff that they clearly didn't do such as better hardware support - that one fuckin' KILLS ME every time! - and don't get me started on those articles on Linux sites that supposedly show things like "amazing FTP client for Ubuntu" and when you see the article, it is talking about plain old Filezilla, as if it is some sort of Ubuntu thing.

I do agree that when Ubuntu first came out, there was room for a distro tailored for newbies, with good hardware detection (even if it was essentially Debian Testing and standard GNOME repackaged) but that was a long time ago. Ubuntu is no longer above the others in this regard and it hasn't been for a long time despite what the "experts" say.

I am happy that they managed to dig a good niche for them in the cloud and the IoT businesses as they actually do a lot of good work and deserve the credit for it despite their weird attitude towards open source in general. But I for one will not miss some of the garbage and attrition that they unnecessarily brought to the table...

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