Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Jun 2017 12:07 UTC

In what is surely the greatest bit of irony in the tech industry this week, a recording of an internal Apple briefing on countering leaking has leaked. Tons of interesting insight in the article covering the recording, but this bit jumped out at me, because I never put two and two together in this regard:

Apple's Chinese workers have plenty of incentive to leak or smuggle parts. "A lot, like 99.9 percent, of these folks are good people who are coming to a place that has a job, they're gonna make money, and they're gonna go back and start a business in their province or they're gonna do something else with it, support their family," Rice says. "But there's a whole slew of folks that can be tempted because what happens if I offer you, say, three months' salary?' In some cases we've seen up to a year's worth of salary being rewarded for stealing product out of the factory." Apple workers on the production line make approximately $350 a month, not including overtime, according to a 2016 report from China Labor Watch.

It never dawned on me that leaks could be the result of underpaid factory workers.

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RE[3]: Unsurprising, really
by ThomasFuhringer on Fri 23rd Jun 2017 08:02 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Unsurprising, really"
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It is logically flawed. And it is the typical type of argument brought forward by socialist polemic: Somebody is stealing so it must be the evil employers fault because they 'underpay'.

Ok, lets break it down:
First of all: how do you back up the assertion they are 'undepaid'? Underpaid by what standard? Related to what? Underpaid would mean somebody in the local labor market pays more for the same type of work than another employer. Then workers would simply go and work work there. After all, nobody has ever been forced to work for Foxcon.
Assuming they are 'underpaid' for whatever reason, you would have to establish a cause-effect relationship. Because two things happen in parallel does not necessarily mean one is effected by the other.

Granted, there might be a statistical correlation between poverty and crime, specifically theft. But that would need to be demonstrated by data. And if it is proven you could argue the leaks are somehow related to poverty. Still a different thing than blaming it on somebody for 'underpaying'.

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