Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 23rd Oct 2017 10:42 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless

Over the weekend, people with review units of the Pixel 2 XL began noticing a problem. No, not the already-known issues of muddy color and grainy textures when viewed in low-light, but one that's potentially more worrisome: screen burn-in. First reported on Twitter by Android Central's Alex Dobie, multiple people have noticed that when you look at the screen with a gray background, you can see faint outlines of the phone's navigation buttons on the bottom.

You can see it below, and I can confirm I'm seeing something similar on my own review unit.

The display problems of the Pixel 2 XL - due to its LG-made panel - are baffling. Google claims it's getting serious about hardware, but putting a panel in your flagship phone that isn't only sub-par when it's working, but is also showing burn-in after mere days of use, is wholly and utterly inexcusable. This is not a budget, €150 phone - this is a flagship phone with a flagship price, and consumers deserve better than this clearly garbage display.

Another year, another round of flagships, another year of the iPhone simply being the best all-round option for most, normal people. For most average, normal people, the iPhone will give them an easy-to-use, secure, and updated phone with a decent resale value two to three years down the line. Additionally, Apple Stores or official Apple retailers are widespread, so you often have easy access to in-person customer service.

Samsung/HTC/LG phones don't get updates - or only six months after the fact - but carry the same flagship price, often leaving their users with insecure and out of date software. The Nexus program no longer exists, and Google's Pixel phones are only available in like 2 countries, and on top of that, its flagship model has a display worse than my Palm T|X. The Android market is in a terrible state right now.

Anybody who doesn't care about software and hardware the way most of us do is, years and years in, still best served by an iPhone. Depending on budget, get an iPhone 6S, 7, or 8 (forget the ridiculously overpriced iPhone X); the Android world simply doesn't have a phone that can compete with any of those three - and that's a sad state of affairs. Google has been wholly unable to address the biggest problems Android suffers from - most notably, updates - and we're way past the point where this can be excused without really scraping the bottom of the barrel of excuses.

Suggesting non-nerdy, regular people get an Android phone at this point in time is simply irresponsible.

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RE[4]: Another correction
by avgalen on Tue 24th Oct 2017 09:13 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Another correction"
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Well you’re comparing whatever you want, I’m just pointing out that it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. You can’t just base your assertion on screen size/screen resolution or else you can even bring a more absurd comparison why not use a Galaxy S7 while you’re at it.

I am obviously not only comparing based on screen size and resolution. The S8 has directly competed with the iPhone 7, is now competing with the iPhone 8 and will soon compete with the iPhone X and it can hold its own against all of them for a much lower price. Just look at how many comparisons there are between them online and how they stack up. The iPhone X is mostly the same as the iPhone 8+ except for the screen (that results in no-fingerprint reader but FaceID) and the screen of the S8 is still better than that of the iPhone X. So what exactly makes you think the iPhone 8 should be compared with the S8 and the iPhone X should be compared with the Note 8? Only the price?
(BTW, the S7 only had a 5.1" screen, the S8 has a 5.8" screen so your absurd comparison based only on screen size is the thing that doesn't make any sense whatsoever)

Galaxy S8 is not Samsung flagship anymore, Note 8 is their flagship and it cost more than 1000€.

You are wrong on both:
Since the introduction of the Samsung Galaxy Note smartphone in 2011, the Galaxy S line has co-existed with the Galaxy Note line as being Samsung's flagship smartphones.
Note 8 costs 950 Euro (Source:
iPhone X costs 1150 Euro (Source:
These are not "heavily discounted prices only for Samsung's offering from the grey market, they are simply the prices you would pay for them right now.

iPhone X is Apple’s flagship and if we use retail prices for both phones they’re not that far off : that was Thom’s point.

No, Thom's initial point was about the Pixel 2 XL which is indeed ridiculously overpriced being 1050 € (source I didn't disagree with that phone being ridiculously overpriced. (same for Note8, also overpriced compared to S8 or S8+)
I did correct Thom about the other flagship phones that are not close to the iPhone X or even the iPhone 8 (HTC U11 being 650) in price while offering significantly more modern phones (meaning Oleds with more screen/less bezel like S8 and iPhoneX)

And your argument of features not supported by the iphone is dubious : iPhone X also has features that Samsung phones doesn’t have
Yes, there is no direct comparison but the reason to compare the Note8 with the iPhone X instead of the S8 would be the pencil and Apple has nothing like that. So for this Note8 is in a league of its own. Note8 also has the bigger screen, similar to the S8+ that iPhone X doesn't have, so iPhoneX should be compared to the S8 not S8+ or Note8

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